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kerasa dong......kan imagenya pake foto si emma............jadi lebih jelas keliatan posisi masing2...... :big_weee: :big_weee:
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jalu wrote:kerasa dong......kan imagenya pake foto si emma............jadi lebih jelas keliatan posisi masing2...... :big_weee: :big_weee:
Ooo jadi kamsud nya waktu setting sambil ngerasain si emma?... :e-think:
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iya doong.....kan udah beli.....jadi kita nikmati..... :upss:
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Kalo yang saya perhatikan dari emma.. Tolong koreksi saya.. Bener-bener menonjolkan detail.. Masalah imaging dan staging gitu..

Efek sampingnya ini yang biasa disebut "suara benar".. Jadi kadang buat kuping pemula seperti saya ada feel yang kurang entah di kekuatan bass atau cring yang tinggi..)

Nah poin nya.. Kalo mau dengerin suara emma.. Lebih bagus kalo drivernya yang sensitifitasnya tinggi.. Contoh: ring radiatornya scan speak..

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kalo saya sendiri justru msh rada bingung sih....pake referensi emma tapi yg dioptimalkan tonal accuracy-nya, ya hasilnya stagingnya kagak jelas.....entah lah...namanya jg kuping nubie.... :mrgreen:
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jalu wrote:kalo saya sendiri justru msh rada bingung sih....pake referensi emma tapi yg dioptimalkan tonal accuracy-nya, ya hasilnya stagingnya kagak jelas.....entah lah...namanya jg kuping nubie.... :mrgreen:
Tonal akurasi bukannya mengarah ke staging imaging? Ane ga ngerti ah teori2 gigituan.. Hihihi

Maksudnya suara yang dikeluarin seperti suara pada saat recording = tonal accuracy bukan sih??
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katanya sih gitu mas...saya jg masih blm paham...apakah kalo tonal ngepas maka secara otomatis staging/imaging juga ikut bagus...?? :ungg:

gini aja dah...di sistem saya suaranya terdengar mentah krn obejktifnya supaya suaranya mendekati aslinya, namun kalo didenger itu kagak jelas gambaran gmn tata letak instrumennya....semua campur aduk.... :mrgreen:

entahlah mas....saya jg mesti banyak belajar.... :frm_salut: :frm_salut:
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jalu wrote:katanya sih gitu mas...saya jg masih blm paham...apakah kalo tonal ngepas maka secara otomatis staging/imaging juga ikut bagus...?? :ungg:

gini aja dah...di sistem saya suaranya terdengar mentah krn obejktifnya supaya suaranya mendekati aslinya, namun kalo didenger itu kagak jelas gambaran gmn tata letak instrumennya....semua campur aduk.... :mrgreen:

entahlah mas....saya jg mesti banyak belajar.... :frm_salut: :frm_salut:
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kalo gitu bergurunya sama andi aja mas....... :mrgreen: :ngacir: :ngacir:
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jalu wrote:kalo gitu bergurunya sama andi aja mas....... :mrgreen: :ngacir: :ngacir:
Kalo sama pak andi takutnya tulang cepet keropos.. Hihihi

Nah yang menarik pak jalu installment nya tujuan utama untuk natural kan.. Tapi ga kegambar image nya?
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saya memang objektifnya mengejar suara natural mas....dari hasil pendengaran saya....semakin ditingkatkan untuk menuju natural maka image makin gak jelas...ibarat lg berada di dalem studio musik suara ngumpul semua.... :mrgreen:

mungkin itu disebut apakah pendengar pengen seakan2 didepan panggung atau berada diatas panggung....di mbl saya mungkin seperti diatas panggung...atau jangan2 malah dibelakang panggung..... :upss:

ya kira2 begitu mas... :ungg:
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Uwakakaka.. Makanya jangan pengen deket2 sama penyanyinya.. Hoo gitu? Oom jal the setting sendiri? Meuni jagoan pisan lah.. Salut2..

Lha oom jal kalo mau set2 gitu upgrade pasif lagi? Apa lewat hu?
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master2 audio :frm_salut:
mau tanya sistem audio nih...
biasanya dari Head Unit sampe ke spekaer, ada berapa komponen ya? dan kenapa butuh itu?
ada gambar skemanya gak. biar ane yang cupu ini bisa belajar2...
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maskopat wrote:master2 audio :frm_salut:
mau tanya sistem audio nih...
biasanya dari Head Unit sampe ke spekaer, ada berapa komponen ya? dan kenapa butuh itu?
ada gambar skemanya gak. biar ane yang cupu ini bisa belajar2...
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HU sampe spiker? Cuma butuh 3 komponen : HU + kabel spiker + spiker.. Main aktif degh.. Hihi
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AD74YA wrote:
maskopat wrote:master2 audio :frm_salut:
mau tanya sistem audio nih...
biasanya dari Head Unit sampe ke spekaer, ada berapa komponen ya? dan kenapa butuh itu?
ada gambar skemanya gak. biar ane yang cupu ini bisa belajar2...
:thanks:
HU sampe spiker? Cuma butuh 3 komponen : HU + kabel spiker + spiker.. Main aktif degh.. Hihi
koq yang om stigdjaya pasang ada prosesor, ada ampli, subwofer... ntuh apaan ya?

kalo yang ane tahu, untuk audio rumah, ada HU, pre-amp, power-amp (pre-amp + power-amp = integrated amp), speaker..
dari HU ke ampli pake kabel merah putih gitu.. dari ampli ke speaker pake kabel listrik... :thanks:
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maskopat wrote:
AD74YA wrote:
maskopat wrote:master2 audio :frm_salut:
mau tanya sistem audio nih...
biasanya dari Head Unit sampe ke spekaer, ada berapa komponen ya? dan kenapa butuh itu?
ada gambar skemanya gak. biar ane yang cupu ini bisa belajar2...
:thanks:
HU sampe spiker? Cuma butuh 3 komponen : HU + kabel spiker + spiker.. Main aktif degh.. Hihi
koq yang om stigdjaya pasang ada prosesor, ada ampli, subwofer... ntuh apaan ya?

kalo yang ane tahu, untuk audio rumah, ada HU, pre-amp, power-amp (pre-amp + power-amp = integrated amp), speaker..
dari HU ke ampli pake kabel merah putih gitu.. dari ampli ke speaker pake kabel listrik... :thanks:
Nah itu oom psikopat uda tau.. Sebenernya sama aja.. prosesor itu semacam pre-amp atau buffer atau semacam itulharr.. Tapi signal digital..

Intinyamah home ama car mah sama.... Cmiiw
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AD74YA wrote:
maskopat wrote:
AD74YA wrote: HU sampe spiker? Cuma butuh 3 komponen : HU + kabel spiker + spiker.. Main aktif degh.. Hihi
koq yang om stigdjaya pasang ada prosesor, ada ampli, subwofer... ntuh apaan ya?

kalo yang ane tahu, untuk audio rumah, ada HU, pre-amp, power-amp (pre-amp + power-amp = integrated amp), speaker..
dari HU ke ampli pake kabel merah putih gitu.. dari ampli ke speaker pake kabel listrik... :thanks:
Nah itu oom psikopat uda tau.. Sebenernya sama aja.. prosesor itu semacam pre-amp atau buffer atau semacam itulharr.. Tapi signal digital..

Intinyamah home ama car mah sama.... Cmiiw
hm... jadi prosesor ini dipasang setelah HU dan sebelum power amp? kalo di Home Theater, ini yang mengkonversi sinyal digital menjadi analog. apakah ini juga sama di ICE? Dan apakah outputnya jadi 5 kanal? atau 2 kanal saja?
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Intinya yah itu...ane makin lama makin pusing....‎​ªkªkªkªkª =)) ªkªkªkªkª™ bahasan master2 disini daraaaaammmm aaahhhh.....‎​ªkªkªkªkª =)) ªkªkªkªkª™
Kalo ane mah yg penting suur aja....iya ga oom jay?
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AD74YA wrote:Hari ini final day (at last) dari installment dan setting-setting speaker dan power baru...

Spesifikasi akhir.. tampaknya berubah lagi 60% an dari sebelumnya..

Driver2:
HU: masih Sony XAV-W1
Spiker front: FA3 mk2 (tw+midB)
Spiker surround : Hustler X3 (fullrange)
Sub: masih JL W3V2 12"
Center : Pioneer TS CX90

Ampli: Genesis 5-channel (buat spiker front + sub)
Ampli: Audison VR 404 (buat spiker surround)

Prosesor: masih Alpine PXA-H701 + Rux-C701

Kabel2:
Power: 4AWG merk gatau (poeticmind punya)
Speaker: Monster cable Bi-amp
RCA : Monster cable Interlink XLN 202
Sub : Monster cable Monsterbass 100


Temanya car theater.. suara.. lumayan lah.. daripada lumanyun... :ungg:

GAmbar menyusul ntar yah...
master gogo mau donk di mobil ane setting suara emma :upss:
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maskopat wrote:
hm... jadi prosesor ini dipasang setelah HU dan sebelum power amp? kalo di Home Theater, ini yang mengkonversi sinyal digital menjadi analog. apakah ini juga sama di ICE? Dan apakah outputnya jadi 5 kanal? atau 2 kanal saja?
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Iya benar om kopat.. kira2 begono... kalo ga salah outputnya di prosesor itu 5 kanal.. FR, FL, RR, RL, Sub...
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ZombiEE wrote:Intinya yah itu...ane makin lama makin pusing....‎​ªkªkªkªkª =)) ªkªkªkªkª™ bahasan master2 disini daraaaaammmm aaahhhh.....‎​ªkªkªkªkª =)) ªkªkªkªkª™
Kalo ane mah yg penting suur aja....iya ga oom jay?
Iya... saya mah yang penting enak didenger,, makanya asal setting aja... ngikutin telinga...
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AD74YA wrote:Hari ini final day (at last) dari installment dan setting-setting speaker dan power baru...

Spesifikasi akhir.. tampaknya berubah lagi 60% an dari sebelumnya..

Driver2:
HU: masih Sony XAV-W1
Spiker front: FA3 mk2 (tw+midB)
Spiker surround : Hustler X3 (fullrange)
Sub: masih JL W3V2 12"
Center : Pioneer TS CX90

Ampli: Genesis 5-channel (buat spiker front + sub)
Ampli: Audison VR 404 (buat spiker surround)

Prosesor: masih Alpine PXA-H701 + Rux-C701

Kabel2:
Power: 4AWG merk gatau (poeticmind punya)
Speaker: Monster cable Bi-amp
RCA : Monster cable Interlink XLN 202
Sub : Monster cable Monsterbass 100


Temanya car theater.. suara.. lumayan lah.. daripada lumanyun... :ungg:

GAmbar menyusul ntar yah...
master gogo mau donk di mobil ane setting suara emma :upss:

Yuk.. tapi ente ke bandung... :frm_tumbright: ok?
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AD74YA wrote:Uwakakaka.. Makanya jangan pengen deket2 sama penyanyinya.. Hoo gitu? Oom jal the setting sendiri? Meuni jagoan pisan lah.. Salut2..

Lha oom jal kalo mau set2 gitu upgrade pasif lagi? Apa lewat hu?
setingnya tentu bareng2 sama instalaturnya mas, waktu br terpasang sampe 2 hari untuk seting mengikuti keinginan saya. setelah break-in ya balik lagi kesono untuk seting ulang. Proses seting cuma lewat HU 9887 dibantu RTA dan beberapa CD EMMA. Ya maksudnya mengoptimalkan yg ada aja, sebab kalo upgrade2 terus kantong bisa jebol.. :mrgreen:
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jalu wrote:
AD74YA wrote:Uwakakaka.. Makanya jangan pengen deket2 sama penyanyinya.. Hoo gitu? Oom jal the setting sendiri? Meuni jagoan pisan lah.. Salut2..

Lha oom jal kalo mau set2 gitu upgrade pasif lagi? Apa lewat hu?
setingnya tentu bareng2 sama instalaturnya mas, waktu br terpasang sampe 2 hari untuk seting mengikuti keinginan saya. setelah break-in ya balik lagi kesono untuk seting ulang. Proses seting cuma lewat HU 9887 dibantu RTA dan beberapa CD EMMA. Ya maksudnya mengoptimalkan yg ada aja, sebab kalo upgrade2 terus kantong bisa jebol.. :mrgreen:
waahhh.. aku boleh denger ga oom jalu...? tapi aku ga ngerti apa2 .... takut malu-maluin... :ungg:
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wekks......malu ah mas....sistem nubie didenger sama pakar...udah kebayang skor2 minusnya.... :oops: :oops:
sisi minus dr setingan yg skrg, selain imaging jadi gak jelas jg telinga cepet lelah, mungkin krn kurang rilex didengarnya :ungg:
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@go: kuping situ kuping emas....kuping ane mah kuping nubie...laen laaahhh....:)
@jalu: kamsudnya gimana capek?
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jalu wrote:wekks......malu ah mas....sistem nubie didenger sama pakar...udah kebayang skor2 minusnya.... :oops: :oops:
sisi minus dr setingan yg skrg, selain imaging jadi gak jelas jg telinga cepet lelah, mungkin krn kurang rilex didengarnya :ungg:
Cepat lelah itu biasanya karena suara terlalu nyerang atau karena suara berkumpul di dekat telinga.. dalam hal ini di bagian driver karena pak jalu pasti duduk disana..

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ZombiEE wrote:@go: kuping situ kuping emas....kuping ane mah kuping nubie...laen laaahhh....:)
Halah kayak ane ga tau aja barang2 simpenan ente jem... :big_peace: mau di beberin nih?
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