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di jakarta juga beberapa kali ketemu LC70 jadi ambulance...
tapi kurang tahu nih, apakah bantingan LC70 ini keras seperti FJ40... dia sudah coil spring kan?
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@cokino

wew kok bandingin sama suv yg itu sih?hehe beda kelas dan peruntukan dunk bro...
itu fotonya d freeport yang di pakai bwat angkutan pegawai, tentu ga butuh pick up dlm jumlah besar karna di sana bwat ngangkut2 pke truk2 raksasa CAT... jd yg bnyk di butuhin bwat ngangkut orangnya. walau bgtu tujuannya tetep bukan suv mewah dan tidak selevel discovery dan hummer itu sih tentu VX200 levelnya.

dri bodynya aja ada yg model troopcarrier dgn atap jenong kya gambar yg merah di atas... tentu desainnya di optimalin bwat ngangkut orang sebanyak2nya bukan bwat mewah2an. jd bener kta om gmx emang bwat angkot di freeport wkekek...

ada juga yg atapnya rata kya yg putih di gambar tu dibuat lebih nyaman tp tetep blm bisa masuk pasar suv mewah meskipun harganya mendekati, karna tujuan desain engine sampai kaki2 memang tetep mengutamakan durabilitas bukan comfort apa lg luxury. dulu saat tahun 80-90an model ini ada versi yg di jadiin "light duty" dengan engine lebih kecil 2,4ltr - 3.0 ltr (2lte n 1kz-te) axle type lightduty 27spline,(lc70series normal 30>spline) lalu di beri nama "prado" jadi deh cikal bakal prado sekarang.. oyah di jaman itu meskipun di beri embel2 "light duty" tp tetep full rigid axle dan tetep lebih badak dri dcab.

hehe bosnya sih g bakal pke LC70 dunk.. pkenya vx200...... kec emang hobbys haha..

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maskopat wrote:di jakarta juga beberapa kali ketemu LC70 jadi ambulance...
tapi kurang tahu nih, apakah bantingan LC70 ini keras seperti FJ40... dia sudah coil spring kan?
yg terakhir sih uda coil om... kec yg pickup/heavy duty(troopcarrier) kli yah.. mungkin blkng tetep pke leaf/

kyanya ada yg nyumbang jumlah besar tuh 70 jd ambulance... dmn2 di pke soalnya haha...

klw punya temen gw tahun 86 klw g salah.. masih pke leaf enginenya juga masih 2F hehe...
yg pasti semua LC mah beraatt....

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ngomong2, kalo LC vs patrol, gimana ya? sepertinya patrol masih cukup konservatif dengan full rigid axle bahkan di versi termewahnya.
nissan tidak membedakan struktur patrol untuk kerja dan luxury.. sementara LC, mulai seri 100 dan 200 sudah pake IFS.. tapi bedanya, toyota masih mempertahankan LC70 untuk heavy duty... :e-think:
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om bil, ternyata masih leaf spring untuk LC70...
http://www.toyota.com.au/landcruiser-70 ... onGXLSpecs
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^^
gtw nih patrol di indonesia kurang populer sepertinya nih, uda gtu engine diesel nissan d frontier tampaknya tidak terlalu bagus juga reputasinya dlm hal durabilitas.... tp di oz kan laku banget nissan hehe jd lawan berat toyota.

btw versi terakhir patrol uda jd IFS juga klw ga salah...
tp versi chasis/pickupnya tetep rigid hehe... dan uniknya ada versi dcabnya... hehe ada yg punya di bandung tuh.. dri blkng gw kira frontier tp depanya beda dan lebih gede hehe... bingun jg ane g ada emblemnya.. bgtu liat patrol 2000 bru ngeh hehehe....

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maskopat wrote:om bil, ternyata masih leaf spring untuk LC70...
http://www.toyota.com.au/landcruiser-70 ... onGXLSpecs
yg depan coil kan om?

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Front suspension # Rigid live axle, leading arm, coil springs, dampers and anti-roll bar 
yg blkng masih leaf ternyata meski d spek yg paling tinggi yah..

hemmm engine twinturbo hahaha meskipun di tune ulang bwat durability powernya cukup 202Hp & 430NM dibanding VX200 261 & 650...
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twin turbo? berarti ada turbo untuk putaran atas dan bawah nih ya....?? :e-think:
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twin turbo itu bukannya biasa turbonya di split ya?
misal mesin V6, turbo yang 1 buat 3 silinder, yg 1 lagi buat silinder sisanya.

betulkah pemahaman ane??
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@billy
Kalo sekelas freeport, yah masi cucok lah.
Kalo utk perkebunan mungkin Lonsum kali ya yg tega jadiin mobil 400an jt buat angkot karyawan. Hehehe
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Gw lewat rs lanud yg di kopo bandung, ambulancenya pake LC70, ada tulisan 4500 EFI..
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^^
peminum sejati tuh... haha

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scorpio wrote:twin turbo itu bukannya biasa turbonya di split ya?
misal mesin V6, turbo yang 1 buat 3 silinder, yg 1 lagi buat silinder sisanya.

betulkah pemahaman ane??
yup btul om... biasanya klw ada turbo di mesin V kemungkinan besar selalu 2 unit karna ekshaust mesin V ada 2 kanan kiri,bgtu juga cylder head/valverail nya ada 2 sisi juga jd idealnya turbo pun di buat 2 unit kanan kiri dgn ukuran dan spek sama/Twin.... cmiiw

klw yg 2 turbo rpm atas bawah klw g salah istilahnya bi-turbo karna ukuran/spekl turbonya beda bwat bikin effek optimal di berbagai putaran td, jadi bukan "twin/kembar" hehe

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land cruiser tenanganya bagus yang bensin atau yang solar ya?
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kalo gue kira solar juga gede tenaganya, dan cukup responsif... sepanjang saya coba ya... :)
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Ya, diesel2 toyota cukup bertenaga. Kalo mau cari power, torsi dan irit, diesel toyota udah lumayan, tapi kalo mau cari power, torsi dan fun to drive tanpa mikirin konsumsi bbm...vote for gasoline.
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beritanya nambah lagi..

Auto2000 Pasarkan Land Cruiser Pikap dan Wagon

http://otomotif.kompas.com/read/2011/01 ... .dan.Wagon

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JAKARTA, KOMPAS.com — Melalui Auto2000, Toyota memperlihatkan ujud Land Cruiser (TLC) pikap atau bak terbuka VJ79 yang diimpor utuh (CBU) dari Australia untuk dipasarkan di Indonesia. Kendaraan 4x4 ini menggunakan mesin diesel 6-silinder segaris, 4,2 liter, 96kW yang diperoleh pada 3.800 rpm dan torsi 285 Nm @2.200 rpm.

TLC menggunakan suspensi per keong (depan) dan daun (belakang) dan diklaim mampu berjalan baik di kemiringan 41 derajat. Tambahan snorkle di sisi kanan mencegah air menyelinap ke saluran isap (intake manifold). Karena itu, Land Cruiser ini mampu menerjang genangan air atau sungai dengan ketinggian air 700 mm.

Untuk keamanan, mobil ini dilengkapi airbag pada lingkar kemudi, sabuk pengaman (seat bealt), dan rem cakram pada dua roda depan.

Jodjana Jody, Chief Executive Officer PT Astra International Tbk-Toyota Sales Operation, mengatakan, TLC pikap diimpor untuk memperkuat pasar niaga Toyota sekaligus memenuhi permintaan perusahaan pertambangan dan perkebunan di Indonesia. "Kami tidak menyetok unit. Siapa yang mau, pesan, kita sediakan unitnya," ujar Jody.

Selain model pikap, Toyota juga berniat memasarkan TLC wagon dengan label Troop Carrier atau disebut juga hardtop. Varian ini dasarnya sama dengan pikap, hanya berbeda bodi karena kabin dilengkapi tiga deret jok dan bisa menampung 10 penumpang.

Kedua varian dibandrol masing-masing Rp 680 juta dan Rp 730 juta per unit on the road Jakarta. Diperkirakan harga tersebut bisa berubah bila Toyota langsung secara resmi memasarkannya.

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Mantaps...
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730 jt... dapet 4.2L V8 twin turbo... :e-think:
marketnya siapa ya?
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Ya ada aja...LC200 aja banyak di jalanan...Mercedes Gullwing yg baru 4 miliar aja paling banyak pemesan di Asia Tenggara...belum org Indonesia yg nangkring di Singapur...
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ada aja sih iya om.. tapi ane penasaran target marketnya.. karena mobil ini termasuk mobil pekerja. bukan untuk fashion...
untuk pekerja sebenernya ada hilux dan fortuner... kalo pengen diesel, tinggal masukin aja fortie 3.0 diesel...
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hm.. LC200 koq gak ada di website TAM? TAM gak masukin ya? :e-think:
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maskopat wrote:ada aja sih iya om.. tapi ane penasaran target marketnya.. karena mobil ini termasuk mobil pekerja. bukan untuk fashion...
untuk pekerja sebenernya ada hilux dan fortuner... kalo pengen diesel, tinggal masukin aja fortie 3.0 diesel...
Itu maksud gw di postingan diatas...bukan masalah merk atau harganya, tapi segment nya.
Mobil seharga 1M up ada yg berkeliaran di kebun/tambang tapi yg make jelas bukan low level management.

700 jt cman buat dijadiin angkot + angkat2 barang ? Kereeeeeennnnn
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maskopat wrote:730 jt... dapet 4.2L V8 twin turbo... :e-think:
marketnya siapa ya?
Yg gw tangkep...730 troopcarrier version. Mesinnya v8 ?