Mesin Diesel vs Mesin Bensin

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thats why om Jembei always be mai aidoll... :mky_08: :mky_08: :mky_08:
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KerangBulu wrote:thats why om Jembei always be mai aidoll... :mky_08: :mky_08: :mky_08:
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Ham ho ciakkk arrrr

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*feeling ane ga enak... mulai banyak medan lang dsini..

berondok dulu mendingan dehh ke genteng.. :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Mau garam gak mod? Biar lebih enak dikit feelingny... :upss:


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*ubek gudang, cari ketapel... dr kmrn genteng tetangga bunyi glodakan mulu... ada oknum kyk nya di sana* :mrgreen:
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Minum minummm

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Badak campur garam enak juga yaaa.... :upss:

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Turboman wrote:Minum minummm

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dulu makan kwetiau akang pluit ada si badak ini... entah skrg masi ada atau kaga.. uda lama ga ksana..
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Kata cungkwok mei...badak hen hau hek..uwkwkwkw
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di kwetiau Ayung - MK (or Ayun) ada badak
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ZombiEE wrote:Kata cungkwok mei...badak hen hau hek..uwkwkwkw
Khua chut siong chua CK arr.... :upss:

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dkt mana tuh um turbo ?? jarang liat...

kalo kwetiau 78 mangga besar di mk ada jg tuh si badak... tp upon request..
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Laahh... Koq pada nyari badak di restoran kwetiau....

Mustinya cari di ujung kulon, banyak sana badak :big_weee:

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Kwetiau Apeng ga ada Badak nya... :shrug:
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Badak menurut gue minuman soda yg paling enak, wkt diminum ada rasa manisnya sedikit, & sodanya gk terlalu menusuk gk spt Coca cola dkk... Apalagi kalo campur garam 1 sdt, enak banget....


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ricz wrote:Laahh... Koq pada nyari badak di restoran kwetiau....

Mustinya cari di ujung kulon, banyak sana badak :big_weee:
nope... badak dah susah dicari di ujung kulon.... :frm_bang_head:
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Badak kayaknya ada di BonBin... :ngacir:
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dari bahas diesel vs petrol engine jadi bahas badak....
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Sering perhatiin innova diesel. suaranya kasar. mirip suara permainan roda impian gitu deh. nothing spesial
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karena ada member di SM yang pake nick badak yang ditujukannya kepada ispan... :upss:
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bensin vs diesel? kalo ane lihat sih dengan teknologi sekarang udah mirip2 lhaar... peak torque juga sudah gak beda jauh dengan diesel masih lebih unggul. tapi peak power yang masih unggul bensin.
untuk daya tahan in long term harusnya diesel akan lebih baik karena bekerja pada RPM yang lebih rendah.

lihat aja mesin volvo V40,
D2 vs T3.
Max Output ECE 84 kw 110 kw
115 PS 150 PS
3600 rpm 5700 rpm
Torque 270 Nm 240 Nm
1750.0 - 2500.0 rpm 1600.0 - 4000.0 rpm

sadis ya mesin bensin modern... peak torque lebih kecil 10% dibanding yang diesel, tapi rpm band nya sekitar 2400RPM...
belum lagi kalo dibandingin dengan T4 yang volumenya sama dengan T3 tapi beda tuning. peak torque dari 1600 - 5000 RPM...

source: http://www.volvocars.com/uk/all-cars/vo ... -spec.aspx
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ilhami wrote:Sering perhatiin innova diesel. suaranya kasar. mirip suara permainan roda impian gitu deh. nothing spesial
Embeerrr.....hahahahahah.....namanya juga KomenRel jadul.......juga kompresi mesin yg 18,5:1 pengaruh thd suara mesin juga, tapi justru krn komenrel jadul & kompresi tinggi ini D4 D bisa minum solar jelek

Kompresi mesin Diesel makin rendah = butuh angka CN lebih tinggi, walau memang suara mesin lebih haluss :frm_tumbright:
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Turboman wrote:Soal mesin mah mau BBM nya apa ya kembali ke disain mesin itu se advanced apa dulu lah (IMO & CMIIW)

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Mesin mesin menarik :

http://www.auto123.com/en/news/2013-int ... tid=156588

• International Engine of The Year: Ford's 999cc three-cylinder turbo (Ford Fiesta, B-MAX, C-MAX, etc.);
• New Engine: Volkswagen's 1.4L TSI ACT (Golf 7);
• Green Engine: Fiat's 875cc two-cylinder turbo CNG (Fiat Panda, 500 L, etc.);
• Performance Engine: Ferrari's 6.3L V12 (Berlinetta);
• Sub 1.0L: Ford's 999cc three-cylinder turbo;
• 1.0L-1.4L: Volkswagen's 1.4L TSI Twincharger (VW Polo, Beetle , Golf Plus, Audi A1, Audi A3, etc.);
• 1.4L-1.8L: BMW-PSA's 1.6L turbo gasoline (MINI Cooper S, Countryman S, Clubman S, Peugeot 207cc, etc.);
• 1.8L-2.0L: BMW's 2.0L twin-turbo four-cylinder gasoline (BMW 125i, 320i, Z4, etc.);
• 2.0L-2.5L: Audi's 2.5L five-cylinder turbo (Audi TT RS, RS3, etc.);
• 2.5L-3.0L: Porsche's 2.7L DI (Boxster, Cayman);
• 3.0L-4.0L: McLaren's 3.8L V8 (MP4-12C);
• Over 4.0L: Ferrari's 6.3L V12 (Berlinetta).

http://www.ukipme.com/engineoftheyear/

Bisa dilihat bahwa mesin2 bensinnya sebagian didominasi oleh mesin2 GDI Turbo

Ford EcoBoost 1000 cc GDI turbo ini spt nya sgt menarik

tapi kalo buat ane pribadi sih yg ane anggap salah 1 mesin "Masterpiece" = VW 1.4 TSI

Mesin High Performance dgn banyak piranti induksi tetapi bisa diproduksi scr massal & dijual dengan harga yg masuk akal, dan selama bertahun tahun mesin ini populer scr Global.

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