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Kalo AMT itu kan kayak manual (bisa dioper sendiri) cuma ga pke pedal kopling. tpi dia itu masih bisa di push start (menghidupkan mobil dgn didorong kalo aki tekor). kalo matic biasa itu ga bisa.
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ha? ada AMT? yg kek gmana tu ya
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andy1800 wrote:ha? ada AMT? yg kek gmana tu ya
Kayak punya Savvy?
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VanzMatic wrote:
andy1800 wrote:ha? ada AMT? yg kek gmana tu ya
Kayak punya Savvy?
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iya... kek motor bebek... oper gigi ga pake kopling..
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oo
itu ongkos produksi nya lbh murah ga, drpd matic/cvt ?
kelemahan AMT ini apa? knp cm savvy yg pakai ginian? yg lain knp ga sempat nyoba AMT?
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Kalau matic waktu manuver parkir, harus selalu diinjak rem nya. Apa ini tidak cepat merusak rack steering nya ya?
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ilhami wrote:Kalau matic waktu manuver parkir, harus selalu diinjak rem nya. Apa ini tidak cepat merusak rack steering nya ya?
pabrikan sepertinya sudah menghitung dan uji coba deh bro... kcuali pencet gas and rem dlm waktu yg bersamaan,. bisa langsung rontok tuh gear2 nya,.
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andy1800 wrote:oo
itu ongkos produksi nya lbh murah ga, drpd matic/cvt ?
kelemahan AMT ini apa? knp cm savvy yg pakai ginian? yg lain knp ga sempat nyoba AMT?
pada dasarnya, AMT (robotized manual) adalah girbok manual yang dipasang semacam aktuator (sering disebut "monkey") untuk mengatur kopling dan perpindahan gigi sesuai dng komando dr tuas. Jenis girbok ini cocok sekali untuk tipikal market "konsumen peralihan" yang ingin coba matic tp masih blm berani sepenuhnya meninggalkan girbok manual.

gak banyak produsen yg mengembangkan ini, waktu saya baca di majalah autocar edisi jadul, kelemahan sistem ini kalo si "monkey" mengalami eror itu pergerakan mobil jadi jerking parah, dan separah2nya error bs menyebabkan part internal girbok rontok akibat si "monkey" sudah tidak karuan lagi antara pengaturan kopling dan perpindahan giginya

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jalu wrote: pada dasarnya, AMT (robotized manual) adalah girbok manual yang dipasang semacam aktuator (sering disebut "monkey") untuk mengatur kopling dan perpindahan gigi sesuai dng komando dr tuas. Jenis girbok ini cocok sekali untuk tipikal market "konsumen peralihan" yang ingin coba matic tp masih blm berani sepenuhnya meninggalkan girbok manual.

gak banyak produsen yg mengembangkan ini, waktu saya baca di majalah autocar edisi jadul, kelemahan sistem ini kalo si "monkey" mengalami eror itu pergerakan mobil jadi jerking parah, dan separah2nya error bs menyebabkan part internal girbok rontok akibat si "monkey" sudah tidak karuan lagi antara pengaturan kopling dan perpindahan giginya

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wah berarti masih lebih aman pake manual tradisional ya daripada pake AMT gini
belum tentu semua mekanik bisa ngebenerin kalo2 si "monkey" itu rusak
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Jambangan wrote:
jalu wrote: pada dasarnya, AMT (robotized manual) adalah girbok manual yang dipasang semacam aktuator (sering disebut "monkey") untuk mengatur kopling dan perpindahan gigi sesuai dng komando dr tuas. Jenis girbok ini cocok sekali untuk tipikal market "konsumen peralihan" yang ingin coba matic tp masih blm berani sepenuhnya meninggalkan girbok manual.

gak banyak produsen yg mengembangkan ini, waktu saya baca di majalah autocar edisi jadul, kelemahan sistem ini kalo si "monkey" mengalami eror itu pergerakan mobil jadi jerking parah, dan separah2nya error bs menyebabkan part internal girbok rontok akibat si "monkey" sudah tidak karuan lagi antara pengaturan kopling dan perpindahan giginya

CMIIW
wah berarti masih lebih aman pake manual tradisional ya daripada pake AMT gini
belum tentu semua mekanik bisa ngebenerin kalo2 si "monkey" itu rusak
mantap sharingnya om jalu :frm_tumbright:
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Ane pernah pakai "monkey" seperti itu EZ Clutch di Oreo 2003 ane. Pasang 8jt, hasilnya...kuciwa berat...saat Oreo ane jual, ane lepas itu barang dan akhirnya kasih ke orang...Kalo udah panas sering kayak gak mau lepas kopling, kudu matiin trus idupin lagi itu monyet, baru jalan lagi...dan sering ajrut2an....akhirnya mobil berikutnya matic beneran...aman, nyaman, damai... :wkkk:
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"REAL MAN USE THREE PEDALS" :big_smoking: *Sambil Mijit - Mijit Betis Kiri* :big_slap:

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Stiker mobil yang terakhir ane lihat:

"I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR PEDALS"

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Setelah 6 tahun berlalu dari pejwan...kesimpulan pribadi teteup sama
imsus2c wrote:Driving Pleasure = Matic
Driving Pressure = Manual,

Tapi vote buat Pak tomcat, mendingan mahir di manual dulu terserah mau suka ato gak, jd kalo ke matic lebih lancar adaptasinya.
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tetep manual dong :big_smoking:
toh ga tiap hari dipake. lebih sering naik busway :ngacir:
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Kalo ane sih mending Shiftronic. Maticnya asli, manualnya juga dapat. :mky_01:
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kalo utk kemacetan yah mau ga mau metic..

tp kalau secara umum..manual is the best..even ada dsg,cvt dll...still prefer manual...tp dsg pilihan kedua setelah manual..
kenapa manual? lebih berseni aja nyetirnya..& one of the most exciting thing about manual..feel pada saat downshift maupun upshift...feelnya berasa sampe kaki kiri...dan ngimbangin dengan rpmnya..dan juga sensasi torsi yang mengalir langsung tanpa hambatan torque converter dll...

skarang mobil saya matic smua...dan saya sakawwww manual... :frm_bang_head:
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matik tp yang ada tiptronicnya :mky_03:

meski tetep ga bisa sehebat manual asli, tp cukup membantu buat eksplorasi performa mobil sesungguhnya :mky_03:

dan membantu engine brake :mky_03: kalo matik biasa kadang suka salah masukin, D-3 ke 2, 2 ke L nya sering keliru :frm_bang_head: apalagi yg gate-type :frm_bang_head:
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Secara performa manual blm ada tandingannya,keseringan bawa matic rindu jg yg manual,begitu jg sebaliknya bawa manual rindu jg pakai matic cuma pas macet parah.utk yg belajar nyetir disarankan pakai manual.bisa manual pasti bisa matic,bisa matic blm tentu bisa manual.pantesan di luar negri sim utk manual dan matic beda
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mending kalo baru belajar pake manual :big_grin: ...kalo dah gape matik aja :big_biglaugh: .....nah kalo duitnya belebih belih dah golf mk tuh...mantap :big_exellent:
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klo ane pas belajar dulu manual, namun pas beli mobil milih matic, alesannya agar bisa dipake oleh anggota keluarga yg lain, khususnya wanita
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Diesel mah paten kalo pake manual.
Bisa blayer blayer sebagai ganti klakson.... tapi cara ini hanya berlaku untuk diesel jadul loh ya, diesel commonrail ga berasa suara dan geternya..Ga bisa buat blayer blayer. Bakal dicuekin..
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Gw lebi suka matic...

Alasan : lebi ga cape...

Tapi manual asyik jg, apalg bwt bawa kenceng...

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