Mengapa Sulit Runtuhkan Dominasi Avanza-Innova?

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amfibi wrote:
Kalo dgn harriel gini udah bilang limbung goyangan body parah dsb... Gimana kalo dikasih suv ladder spt fortuner ato land cruiser 80-200? Apa nggak lebih mengeluh dr ini... :ungg:
lhah makanya gw kagak pernah suka SUV ladder kan? SUV ladder yang pernah gw bawa Pajero Sport ama MU-X, and i swear i won't buy any ladder-frame SUV, it doesn't suit my taste....

sejauh ini SUV dibuat nyaman malah gw merasa keempukan jadi goyangan badannya parah, gw dah ngerasain di 2 mobil yang dibilang SUV ternyaman soalnya, T31 X-Trail dan Harrier.... perlu diinget bahwa gw nyetir Harrier ini tiap hari jadi plus minusnya gw dah khatam... bukan bermaksud subjektif atau gimana
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Kalo dgn harriel gini udah bilang limbung goyangan body parah dsb... Gimana kalo dikasih suv ladder spt fortuner ato land cruiser 80-200? Apa nggak lebih mengeluh dr ini... :ungg:
lhah makanya gw kagak pernah suka SUV ladder kan? SUV ladder yang pernah gw bawa Pajero Sport ama MU-X, and i swear i won't buy any ladder-frame SUV, it doesn't suit my taste....

sejauh ini SUV dibuat nyaman malah gw merasa keempukan jadi goyangan badannya parah, gw dah ngerasain di 2 mobil yang dibilang SUV ternyaman soalnya, T31 X-Trail dan Harrier.... perlu diinget bahwa gw nyetir Harrier ini tiap hari jadi plus minusnya gw dah khatam... bukan bermaksud subjektif atau gimana
Ngejudge minus selalu gt karna selera pribadi yg sukanya mobil sporty kan, jd ga objektif... So dont too many judging about these comfy cars anymore :ungg:
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amfibi wrote: Ngejudge minus selalu gt karna selera pribadi yg sukanya mobil sporty kan, jd ga objektif... So dont too many judging about these comfy cars anymore :ungg:
mana ada, J32 Teana sama Elgrand itu gw puji kok kenyamanannya.
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amfibi wrote: Ngejudge minus selalu gt karna selera pribadi yg sukanya mobil sporty kan, jd ga objektif... So dont too many judging about these comfy cars anymore :ungg:
mana ada, J32 Teana sama Elgrand itu gw puji kok kenyamanannya.
Then what about camry? Harrier? Ladders? Hi roof MPVs? :mky_03:
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amfibi wrote:
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amfibi wrote: Ngejudge minus selalu gt karna selera pribadi yg sukanya mobil sporty kan, jd ga objektif... So dont too many judging about these comfy cars anymore :ungg:
mana ada, J32 Teana sama Elgrand itu gw puji kok kenyamanannya.
Then what about camry? Harrier? Ladders? Hi roof MPVs? :mky_03:
as i said before, gw pake 2 SUV yang dibilang "nyaman", gw malah ngerasa set suspensinya keempukan jadi pitching bodynya parah.

Camry yang pas bantingannya buat ane justru XV50 yang dibuat agak firm, XV40 malah agak terlalu bouncy, kagak ngarti yang punya ente cemana, belom pernah naik.

Hi-roof MPV, baca aja di review gw, mana ada gw hujat Alphard dan Elgrand gegara nggak fun to drive?

keep that in mind kalo SUV dan sedan itu 2 makhluk yang berbeda... walaupun share the same chassis.
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ChZ wrote:
amfibi wrote:
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mana ada, J32 Teana sama Elgrand itu gw puji kok kenyamanannya.
Then what about camry? Harrier? Ladders? Hi roof MPVs? :mky_03:
as i said before, gw pake 2 SUV yang dibilang "nyaman", gw malah ngerasa set suspensinya keempukan jadi pitching bodynya parah.

Camry yang pas bantingannya buat ane justru XV50 yang dibuat agak firm, XV40 malah agak terlalu bouncy, kagak ngarti yang punya ente cemana, belom pernah naik.

Hi-roof MPV, baca aja di review gw, mana ada gw hujat Alphard dan Elgrand gegara nggak fun to drive?

keep that in mind kalo SUV dan sedan itu 2 makhluk yang berbeda... walaupun share the same chassis.
Okay, so
Ini uneg uneg hamba hina dina saja... hamba pecinta mobil nyaman aja ga pernah menjudge mobil sporty n fun to drive jelek, karna mobil2 sporty emang enak dipake jg & wajib diapresiasi... Masa si bro yg pecinta mobil sporty selama ini ngejudge kebanyakan mobil2 nyaman jelek mulu di banyak post ente? Kan nggak adil n nggak nyaman dilihatnya... :ungg:
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Not all toyota are pointless some of them are good, kalo bilang selain avanza n ipah adalah pointless....which mean,

markX,seluruh lexus, LCseries dr gen awal ampe 200 (termasuk LX570), crown sampe Century is a useless hopeless pointless dst...

kalo pointless kan gabakal om gobel n mr.PSD beli itu

kalo segitu dah terlalu nyaman....bagaimana RRphantom ato Big B mulsane :ngacir:
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walid_007 wrote:Ya ngak masuk akal juga mau pake mobil suspensi grobak di indo .. emang di sini jalan nya alus?

Trus mobil keras itu emang enak di hi speed. Masalahnya mau hi speed semakin sulit kecuali nganggur dan mau lari2 jam 4 pgi

*Ane tetp milih harrier drpd crv rm
Mobil harian ane suspensi gerobak, dan masi masuk akal kok
Suspensi gerobak buat ane lebih nyaman daripada suspensi empuk di jalan bergelombang dan berkelok2

Mobil suspensi gerobak menyenangkan pengemudi, mobil empuk memanjakan penumpang
Ane si kalo naik camry langsung buka pintu belakang, males banget disuruh nyetir
Ikutan trend penghuni garasi:

-antek medket liar entah milik siapa
-ayam milik tetangga depan rumah yg kadang nyasar
-tikus yg siap diracun :evil:
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Entah kenapa kalo menurut ane nyetirin mobil nyaman maupun mobil sporty sama enaknya... Cuma memang berbeza level kenikmatannya, yg 1 bikin rileks yg 1 bikin ceria :mky_02:

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FRD wrote:Cangcimen cangcimen kacang kuaci permen, aqua mijon ale-aleeeeee muraaahhhhh
















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perna punya mobil bantingan empuk nyaman, minim getaran mesin... skali rusak abis 1 macbook air

punya jg 2 mobil suspensi gerobag... skali rusak cuman abis 1 gtab3

oh my... :big_dunno: :big_dunno:
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sandal wrote:
FRD wrote:Cangcimen cangcimen kacang kuaci permen, aqua mijon ale-aleeeeee muraaahhhhh
















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bkin oot ahhh...

p@nt@t nubie ane perna nyicipin (cuman jd penumpang doank) camry XV40, mersi w204, biem f30, masda 6 mirip mods helem punya...

utk lembut nyaman dan bkin bobok si XV40,

utk keras dan menyiksa (dlm arti ga betah di mobil) si masda

utk keras tp nikmat w204

utk keras tp biasa aj si biem

tp satu hal yg ane masi binggung ama si mersi dan biem... kl lg hajar lobang, berkesan bgt blep blep nya... biar keras tp terdengar mantap ... kaga grudug2 atau gradag2 ringkih... bahkan si xv40 aj masi ada sensasi gradag2 ini...

oh my :big_dunno: :big_dunno:

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walid_007 wrote:Ya ngak masuk akal juga mau pake mobil suspensi grobak di indo .. emang di sini jalan nya alus?

Trus mobil keras itu emang enak di hi speed. Masalahnya mau hi speed semakin sulit kecuali nganggur dan mau lari2 jam 4 pgi

*Ane tetp milih harrier drpd crv rm
Dan kalo biar ane tambahkan,kenyamanan bagian dari suprimasi si elang emas, pun sesuai sama habitat alam indonesia dan sekeliling masyarakatnya

juga suv level segitu usingnya buat santai, nyaman karena buat pemakaian daily normalnya....

*karena itu ane mantepkan ke harrier
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DOHC wrote:bkin oot ahhh...

p@nt@t nubie ane perna nyicipin (cuman jd penumpang doank) camry XV40, mersi w204, biem f30, masda 6 mirip mods helem punya...

utk lembut nyaman dan bkin bobok si XV40,

utk keras dan menyiksa (dlm arti ga betah di mobil) si masda

utk keras tp nikmat w204

utk keras tp biasa aj si biem

tp satu hal yg ane masi binggung ama si mersi dan biem... kl lg hajar lobang, berkesan bgt blep blep nya... biar keras tp terdengar mantap ... kaga grudug2 atau gradag2 ringkih... bahkan si xv40 aj masi ada sensasi gradag2 ini...

oh my :big_dunno: :big_dunno:

oot mode : selesai
Tulll, kerasnya biem ama merc tuh beda banget, bukan ky mobil jepang yg kerasnya jeduak, dia cukup blep blep aja udah n terpantul dgn nyaman :mky_02:
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Masih kalah sama ipah yg ngelibas lobang/gundukan tanpa suara... :ngacir:
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Hansen wrote:Masih kalah sama ipah yg ngelibas lobang/gundukan tanpa suara... :ngacir:
apanja lah, lobang kecil aja satu kabin dari dashboard, jok, steering, kaki-kaki orkestra semua :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:

BTT, kalo ngomongin dominasi Avanza-Innova, emang harus diakui 2 mobil ini yang cocok buat kondisi di Indonesia yang hobi pake mobil ala kadarnya, ngisi BBM busuk, ganti oli cuma kalo inget, dan diisi overload penuh. plus sparepart murah dan gampang dibenerin.

jujur aja belom nemu mobil se-fleksibel Innova, tahan banting iya, lega iya, muat orang banyak iya, tangguh, irit, diulik dikit juga ngacir, kurang apa? :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:

empuknya standar-standar aja sih, a bit bouncy cuma masih tolerable, ada harga ada barang lah. modelnya juga IMO keren apalagi GNKI sebelum operasi wajah yang super-ultra-mega-fail.... pasang velg gede dan ceperin dikit dah cocok nampang di lobby hotel.
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Mobil empuk akan mudah dibuat keras... tapi yg keras mau dibikin empuk lebih sulit

Lagian logika waras nya semakin mahal mobilnya akan semakin enak dan nyaman naikan nya

Tapi di segmen nya

Misal vios naik ke altis ya enak altis... naik je camry ya lebih enak lagi.. naik lagi ke crown tambah oke lagi

Tipe c kalah nyaman debgan e... e juga kalah debgan s

Jangan sedan dengan sportcar atau suv dg sportcar
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Yg bikin heran sih gwagen.. utk konstruksi rangka purba plus bodi setinggi gitu plus nilai streamline parah, olengan ipah ke mana2 di tol, padahal ipah lebih cebol banyak dan jelas lolos kl diwindtunnel vs gwagen.

Apa karena bobot ya? Atau sempurnanya germany engineering?

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Malah jadi bahas sedan eropah...

Posisi duduk yg rendah, dimensi kecil, setir enteng tapi ngga ampang, interior sederhana, membuat apanjah makin mirip boomboom car, apalagi yang matik...... 100% mirip. Gas rem setir dan ruang duduk pas buat berdua...*cieee*

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VanzMatic wrote:Malah jadi bahas sedan eropah...

Posisi duduk yg rendah, dimensi kecil, setir enteng tapi ngga ampang, interior sederhana, membuat apanjah makin mirip boomboom car, apalagi yang matik...... 100% mirip. Gas rem setir dan ruang duduk pas buat berdua...*cieee*

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Nightster Guy wrote:Yg bikin heran sih gwagen.. utk konstruksi rangka purba plus bodi setinggi gitu plus nilai streamline parah, olengan ipah ke mana2 di tol, padahal ipah lebih cebol banyak dan jelas lolos kl diwindtunnel vs gwagen.

Apa karena bobot ya? Atau sempurnanya germany engineering?

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Namanya aja gelandangan wagen, oom.....
Angkutan untuk para gelandangan :big_biglaugh:

Dan bukan german engineering, oom....itu austrian engineering