Mobil2 Swedia, canggih.....tapi pabriknya gak survive

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Mobil2 Swedia, canggih.....tapi pabriknya gak survive

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Kalo Volvo semua orang udah tahu

Tetangga-nya si Volvo........juga bangkrut

Padahal barangnya canggih

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Mesin aslinya 230 Hp........Modif pake komponen2 aftermarket / custom ala modip D4 D.......hasilnya :





Sayang yeh pabriknya dah bangkrut.....hehehe
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mmmm.... saab....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9l-AoXcDw0

bener2 "sarap" kl bkin mobil...
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Ane nemu link yg jual saab 9.5 tahun 2003 di jakarta . Spare partnya ntah bagaimana atau mungkin substitusi sama volvo http://shop.civimi.com/kjsmotorsport/Au ... gka%29.cvm :big_think:
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Selain mesin, ingat SAAB itu punya standar safety terbaik di kelasnya.. Bahkan mobil jerman sekelas BMW atau Merc's jaman itu masih kalah dari SAAB.. SAAB sendiri skrg masih ada tapi sebagai pembuat pesawat, karena memang dulunya pabrik pesawat sih..
SAAB pertama kali memperkenalkan semi automatic transmission atau yg kita kenal sekarang dengan nama automated manual transmission..
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kl dari link video nya topgear, itu saab ditebalikin dan dijatuhin aj masi utuh rangka kabin nya.... bener2 gokil mreka bangun mobil nya.... tp yahh pantesan aj mreka merugi... gmana mau untung gede kl mreka sgitu royal nya bkin mobil....
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Tidak pernah tertarik gw dengan Saab. Semua mobilnya (sebelum diambil alih GM) FWD, tampangnya aneh, dan power mesinnya yah, segitu2 doang. Setelah diambil alih GM, mesin mulai lumayan powernya, terutama yang 9-7x Aero (Chevrolet Trailblazer SS) yang mesinnya 6.0l V8 LS2 (400 HP) dan 9-2x yang basisnya Subaru WRX wagon.

Yang power ratingnya 230hp diukur masih cara yang lama, tidak sama dengan cara pengukuran jaman sekarang. Kalau diukur sekarang, angka powernya bakal jauh lebih kecil.

Kenapa SAAB bangkrut? Persisnya tidak tahu, tapi pasti banyak faktor2-nya. Kebanyakan mungkin ditekan kanan kiri oleh perusahaan2 mobil lainnya.
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Merapat di trit bergizi :big_grin:
Ane pernah lihat dan download :ngacir: topgear yg tribute to saab series 18 episode 5 ya mbahas saab. Begh... mantap tuh mobil :big_smoking:

Dan lucunya, saab sempat ngembangin mobil tanpa setir.... dan yang nyetir JC pd tahun 90an :mky_03:

Tapi sayang bangkrut saab :ungg:

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ahh iya om katup dobel, memang super strong chasis sayang mereka gak bertahan di divisi otomotif nya.. Skrg masih jalan divisi aviasi nya saja..
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Kalo ngeliat2 kenapa ini mesinnya banyak yg dimodip sampe 400 - 500 Hp mungkin salah 1 nya krn Blok mesin dari Baja......layaknya Diesel CRD.....kuat

Kalah di pemasaran ya mungkin krn modelnya gitu2 aja / enggak modis.........mesin gasoline Turbo pasarnya "niche market".........

Cuman kalo ngeliat dari basic design mesinnya.......spt nya ini ibarat D4 D di dunia Gasoline......mesin yg diproduksi massal tapi punya potensi "jadi monster".......krn aslinya udah pake Turbo maka modif selanjutnya jadi lebih mudah

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saab = swedish automobile always broken

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Kalo ngeliat isi thread ini :

http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/showt ... 3&t=138633

Spt-nya ECU nya mesin SAAB 9000 bisa di RE-MAP secara penuh.....jadi gak perlu pakai Piggyback

http://www.maptun.com/pdf/maptuner-T7-guide-eng.pdf

Tinggal sewa Dyno aja...........

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Sayang kayaknya yg ini ngga bikin mobil penumpang (passenger vehicle)
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Kalo ane liat kayaknya team shareholder persh2 kendaraan di Sweden itu lihai forecasting-nya.......mrk ngeliat bikin mobil penumpang bakalan "capek" punya ke depannya ya buru2 dijual unit bisnisnya

sementara yg masih lebih "blue ocean" mereka pertahankan......Commercial vehicle

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Yg ini memproduksi komponen mesin utk RR Trent juga nich.....hehehe

Juga bikin mesin utk SAAB Gripen
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Ane pernah bbrp kali Saab 9-5 (sekelas E-klasse & 5 series) yg unit digambar ini seliweran di sekitaran Cibubur.. :mky_02:

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imsus2c wrote:Sayang kayaknya yg ini ngga bikin mobil penumpang (passenger vehicle)
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SCANIA ya om? Entah kenapa,tapi kalo yg ane rasakan suspensinya jauh lebih yahud MAN punya (ane dah pernah nyoba di malay) kalo dari sisi teknis yg lain ane kurang tau hehehehe, tapi di indo Scania salah satu yg mempopulerkan mesin bertenaga besar sebelum yg lain ikut2an :mky_01: kalo soal SAAB yg ane inget cuma satu,faktor safetynya dewa :mky_02:
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Mobil yang merknya sulit diucapkan orang sini, entah kenapa gak laku :mky_03:
SAAB salah satunya.
Coba merknya diganti ABBA ... *eh

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artoodetoo wrote:Mobil yang merknya sulit diucapkan orang sini, entah kenapa gak laku :mky_03:
SAAB salah satunya.
Coba merknya diganti ABBA ... *eh

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zaman dulu SAAB di sini dibuat kepanjangan "Saya Anak Angkatan Bersenjata"

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Swedish automobile always bankrupt just the way

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WELCOME BACK OM NR !!!!

btw, ad sepenggal kisah ga om ttg si saab ini ?? rada penasaran ane, apalagi ttg beredar nya ini mobil di indo
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Sy masih simpan bangkai nya 9-3 di tanakusir tanya sj 99ky

Parts nya bgt byk GM krn dia rebadge chevy malibu qq saturn aura
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walaupun dl diakuisisi GM.. bukan nya saab tetep ngotot dgn desain dan parts nya mreka yah om... (at least, itu info dari top gear series UK)
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Mainan eurokars jaman dulu masih kong sie dgn duit nya tanri

Ah itu bangkai sy beli iseng krn kalo di US itu saab mobil mid social kasta

Org jaman sy muda dulu kalo br lulus sbg attorney / medical dr / dentist mulai kerja

Beli hyundai

Dpt private license u practice ratarata beli tyt corolla

First big fish client umumnya beli subby atau bm 3

Masuk jadi young partner mrk beli saab atau benz entry level atau bm 5 atau lexus entry level

Dan seterusnya

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newrubble wrote:Sy masih simpan bangkai nya 9-3 di tanakusir tanya sj 99ky

Parts nya bgt byk GM krn dia rebadge chevy malibu qq saturn aura
9-3 udah jadi bangkai om????

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Saab paska GM jadinya face-lift & badge engineering. Ada beberapa yang kecil2 lainnya seperti letak kunci kontaknya dipertahankan di center console dan suspension tuning lebih ke arah "Eropa". Di sini, Saab 9-3 yang kembaran Chevy Malibu hampir tidak ada harganya. Malibu generasi itu sudah mulai jarang kelihatan (mobil disposable) apalagi yang versi Saab.

Beberapa tahun yang lalu gw cari2 Saab 9-7x Aero yang mesinnya LS2 V8. Lumayan bisa dapat SUV 400HP dengan suspensi "Eropa" (lebih ceper, lebih keras, dll), lampu depan standar HID, dll dengan harga yang relatif murah karena harganya anjlok jlok.
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