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mau numpang nanya nih,rem jazz saya ini kalau di rem gitu bergeter steering wheelnya, udah saya balancing dan ganti kampas rem ttp aja begitu,kata org bengkel itu disc brakenya ada yang "peang" gitu jadi harus di ganti.
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gejala rem bergetar bisa karena bisa krn disc peyang, bisa jg karena permukaan disc yg bergelombang.

yg paling enak disc tsb dibawa ke bengkel bubut, nanti akan mereka cek, jika kerusakan blm parah dan ketebalannya masih aman, maka disc bisa dibubut untuk diratakan kembali...tidak perlu ganti disc.

tapi kalo memang sudah parah, disc harus diganti

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jalu wrote:gejala rem bergetar bisa karena bisa krn disc peyang, bisa jg karena permukaan disc yg bergelombang.

yg paling enak disc tsb dibawa ke bengkel bubut, nanti akan mereka cek, jika kerusakan blm parah dan ketebalannya masih aman, maka disc bisa dibubut untuk diratakan kembali...tidak perlu ganti disc.

tapi kalo memang sudah parah, disc harus diganti

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makasih atas commentnya,bengkelnya juga bilang suruh di bubut aja,cuman saya takut ada efek sampingnya.
efek samping dari bubut rem itu apa ya?
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nubie coba bantu jawab yahhh...

piringan rem itu ada lapisan hardening nya.... nah lapisan tsb lah yg lama2 jadi aus dan menipis seiring dgn seringnya kita mengerem... nah kalo uda menipis ampe ke bagian hardening tsb ilang, yah disc otomatis jadi gampang peyang dan uda ga bisa dibubut lagi, karena percuma aja, karena begitu disc nya overheat atau panas karena di rem, dia jadi gampang peyang lagi....
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dng dibubut tentu disc akan lbh tipis....tapi jgn pesimis dl yaa. bengkel bubut tentu sudah tau batas toleransi ketebalan yg aman, sehingga meski sudah dibubut disc tsb masih tetap aman dipergunakan, sebab jika disc tsb memang sudah tipis atau dr hitungan setelah dibubut ketebalannya sudah dibawah toleransi, biasanya bengkel bubut jg tidak menyarankan untuk dikerjakan.
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DOHC wrote:nubie coba bantu jawab yahhh...

piringan rem itu ada lapisan hardening nya.... nah lapisan tsb lah yg lama2 jadi aus dan menipis seiring dgn seringnya kita mengerem... nah kalo uda menipis ampe ke bagian hardening tsb ilang, yah disc otomatis jadi gampang peyang dan uda ga bisa dibubut lagi, karena percuma aja, karena begitu disc nya overheat atau panas karena di rem, dia jadi gampang peyang lagi....
makasih ya udah di jawab. jadi itu disc brake yang perlu di ganti 1 set depan?apakah yang "peang" selalu di depan saja?
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jalu wrote:dng dibubut tentu disc akan lbh tipis....tapi jgn pesimis dl yaa. bengkel bubut tentu sudah tau batas toleransi ketebalan yg aman, sehingga meski sudah dibubut disc tsb masih tetap aman dipergunakan, sebab jika disc tsb memang sudah tipis atau dr hitungan setelah dibubut ketebalannya sudah dibawah toleransi, biasanya bengkel bubut jg tidak menyarankan untuk dikerjakan.
makasih ya atas masukannya. mungkin saya mau coba tanya DC disc brake yang baru.soalnya takut kenapa2 juga sebenernya kalo di bubut soalnya denger2 kalo di bubut remnya jadi kurang pakem juga
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saya sendiri udah pernah bubut cakram dan tromol, dan tidak ada masalah dng pengereman, masih tetap pakem....tapi semua tergantung ke TS...jika ingin lbh yakin tentu dengan ganti disc. yg baru.... :D
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ndnd wrote:
DOHC wrote:nubie coba bantu jawab yahhh...

piringan rem itu ada lapisan hardening nya.... nah lapisan tsb lah yg lama2 jadi aus dan menipis seiring dgn seringnya kita mengerem... nah kalo uda menipis ampe ke bagian hardening tsb ilang, yah disc otomatis jadi gampang peyang dan uda ga bisa dibubut lagi, karena percuma aja, karena begitu disc nya overheat atau panas karena di rem, dia jadi gampang peyang lagi....
makasih ya udah di jawab. jadi itu disc brake yang perlu di ganti 1 set depan?apakah yang "peang" selalu di depan saja?
coba bantu oom.........
disc yg "peyang" ga selalu yg depan aja, tp dalam kasus oom ini khan yg kerasa steering bergetar saat ngerem, nah tentu saja suspect nya pasti disc depan..........cmiiw
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mending kalo masih tebal dibubut aja, kan udah ada spesifikasi, ketebalan minimum cakram. soal hardening, pada permukaan cakram tidak ada masalah, soalnya memang dibuat untuk bergesekan dan habis, tapi masih bisa dipake. (bayangkan, hardening tu tebal lapisan hanya cuma beberapa mikron, gak sampai mm, padahal keausan cakram sampai hitungan mm) jadi, dicek aja ketebalan minimum yang diperbolehkan, kalo misalnya masih jauh toleransinya, mending diratakan kembali. kalau sudah mendekati ato lewat batas ketebalan minimum, harus diganti, kalo bisa, kanan kiri harus sama, kalo yang kanan dibubut, yang kiri juga harus, kalo yang kanan diganti, yang kiri juga,
seringnya disc brk yang depan yang peang karena bobot pengereman emang lebih besar di depan,
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Kalau masih bisa dibubut, dibubut aja. Kalau kebanyakan membubut, memang rem akan los (tidak menggigit). Untuk itu perlu diketahui sebetulnya batas minimum ketebalan disk brake itu berapa?

Agar disk awet, dlm mengencangkan baut roda hrs yg rata.
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pedal remnya berasa geter juga gk???? kalo disk peang mustinya sih berasa juga getaran di pedal remnya, karena ada tendangan balik dari piston rem akibat dari disk yang peang..

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makasih ya atas masukan dari semuanya,nanti saya update lagi bagaimana jadinya.Trims sebelumnya
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saya rasa bubut itu solusi paling bagus... yakin lah pasti masih tebel, no probs. tapi kalo mau beli disc nya juga ga mahal2 banget kok buat jazz... wong seribu umat... :)
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Rem geter bisa juga krn ABS berfungsi.
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asudarsono wrote:Rem geter bisa juga krn ABS berfungsi.
nah ini jg bisa jadi kan, tapi ABS berfungsi ketika rem diinjak secara penuh (sekuat tenaga)
TS merasakan getarannya kapan?
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honda jazz saya tahun 2006,belum ada versi abs+ebd+ba and air bag.
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nambahin info
skrg teknologi sudah berkembang, proses bubut cakram bisa langsung dilakukan di mobilnya tanpa harus melepas disc.

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iya tapi tergantung... kalo dibengkel pas lagi turun mesin, mending dilepas dan dibawa. prosesnya sama2 aja.
rem geter juga bisa karena oli rem kurang, banyak kok sebabnya... tapi kalo karena ABS failure jarang... biasanya ECU yg ngaco. reset aja lagi di BeRes. ini sih case yg jarang banget.. hanya bberapa persen yg kejadian begini.
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Maksud ane, kalau ABS jalan normal, kayak ada getaran di pedal rem.
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jalu wrote:nambahin info
skrg teknologi sudah berkembang, proses bubut cakram bisa langsung dilakukan di mobilnya tanpa harus melepas disc.

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sebetulnya cara ini udah lama jal..... sekitar th 90 an udah ada....... tp mesti diinget, klo pengerjaannya spt ini, laher roda harus dlm keadaan bagus, spy hasilnya juga bagus.......
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Namanya Underfloor Wheel Lathe. Membubutnya per as. Pengerjaan per as sebentar sekali, bisa ditunggu.

Thx atas tip bhw laher hrs bagus, pak Prof. Berarti kalau balans spooring juga hrs bagus kali ya, agar optimal.
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alat yg bang rijal post tsb ane perna liat tuh di beres nissan... ngobrol2 ama montirnya katanya emang banyak yg ngebubut disc nya... tapi biasanya cuman skali doank, kalo kelak bergetar atau bermasalah lagi pasti disuruh ganti disc nya skalian....

btw, rem lipina ane kayanya ada yg ga beres jg nehh... kalo lagi lari kenceng trus ane rem, pedal terasa geter2 gt.... padahal minyak rem baru di kuras di beres, dan waktu servis kata montir nya kondisi pad masi tebel dan rem berfungsi bagus....
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abs nya lg gawe kali oom......
klo ngga, biar ntu pedal ga geter.........jangan d injek oom :ungg: :ungg:






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lipina mana ada abs om dog... :big_smoking: :big_smoking: :big_smoking:
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