Big MPV vs Premnium Sedan

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Pilih mana

Big MPV
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53%
Premnium sedan
8
47%
 
Total votes: 17

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SMers gw mau minta pendapatnya mengenai mobil jenis apa yang cocok buat di jakarta yg macet melulu, kriteria/syarat kendaraannya:

1. Pakai driver
2. Harga kendaraan antara 800jt-1.2m(harus baru)
3. Dipakai di daerah yang jalannya mulus tp macet dan kl ujan suka ada genangan

kalau gw sih pilih big MPV karena dari segi space udah jelas lebih enak, segi comfort juga gak kalah sama sedan soal empuk dan kedap suaranya, ICE juga gak beda jauh sama sedan malah bisa lebih yang gw liat kalah dari sedan adalah faktor SRS, speed/handling dan masalah gengsi tp kalo gw pilih comfort daripada gengsi :mrgreen:

mobil2 yg masuk di kriteria polling ini(tambahin kl kurang):
sedan: 523(f10), jag xf, e280(dpt gak?), gs300
MPV: alphard/vellfire, elgrand, caravelle

BTW gw sengaja gak bikin VS premnium SUV juga karena CMIIW premnium SUV yg masuk di kategori harga segitu adalah x5, q5, ML yang secara space tidak beda jauh dengan sedan counterpartnya
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Belum pernah lihat pejabat kalau konvoi Alphard dan Mercy, dia pilih Toyota terus ajudannya pakai Mercy.
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Kalau disopirin IMO mendingan Big MPV
Kalau sopir sendiri ya Sedan
Tp kl kadang disopirin kadang nyetir sendiri SUV kali ye

Kl bujet segitu mendingan SUV sih, krn sana kan medannya kadang ada genangannya kl sedan kasian. SUV td abang bilang ga beda dimensi . justru itu dengan GC yg lbh mumpuni sekalian premium SUV aja toh tongkrongannya udah gak kalah nyaman ama sedan tp gagahnya juga dapat.

Sedan : tambahannya keknya blm nemu dr itu bro
MPV: new Viano dan Honda Elyson Prestige, Previa
SUV (maap masih ngeyel ) : RX350 , Prado baru , Touareg, CX9.
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Kalo dari seluruh option diatas saya pilih F10 5-series. BMW skrg juga udah enak di sopirin, dan buat sekali2 setir sendiri gak usah ditanya. Minus (atau plus) nya, tampangnya understated - gak menarik perhatian. XF bagus, cuman gak terlalu jelas reliabilitynya.

Kalo cuman bawa pasukan sekampung sekali2 dan banyak mobil lainnya - ngapain pake big MPV...
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Kl gw berasa lebih ada space aja di dalam mpv jadi gak berasa tambah sumpek karena macet apalagi kl dah sore atau pagi2 yg dimana shade sunroof masih bisa dibuka jadi berasa lega kalo nyetir sendiri ya memang enakan bawa sedan atau suv cuma kalo hari biasa gak praktis nyetir sendiri udah kena macet mesti muter2 cari parkir pula
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Iya sih kalo soal space sih gak ada matinya MPV2 gede yg bentuknya aja kaya segepok roti :mrgreen:
Indonesia memang lagi musim MPV gede2 begini...
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:mrgreen: :mrgreen: justru karena bentuknya seperti segepok roti dan seperti dari komik robot jepang gw jadi demen JDM MPV kalo liat MPV UsDM gak napsu gw, soccer mom abiesss :mrgreen: tapi taste beneran subjevtive waktu gw tunjukin photo elgrand gw ke org kantor gw 2 taon lalu reaksi mereka muali dari 'ewww' sampe 'wtf dude? U need to get your eyes checked'
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Kalo Nissan sih skrg hampir gak ada bedanya JDM ama USDM...Quest baru luarnya nyaris sama dengan Elgrand baru.

Ane sih gak bilang bentuk MPV kotak roti jelek, cuman dibandingin a fine German sedan...lebih prefer sedan aja.
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menyimak comments bung bushkental, bahkan terutama di thread2 lain jg...ane yakin preferensi nya sbenernya ke big MPV. (krn bung bushkental demikian lama di US, maka dia mengkatagorikannya sbg minivan).

yaitu terutama dari sisi fungsional, yg mana karakteristik dia adlh yg suka menggunakan waktunya di dalam mobil :
u n t u k . . b e k e r j a.
bahkan diinginkan bs dia lakukan meeting, dg seat arrangement sedemikian rupa..ane jg sempet notice bhw dia rela utk modif layoutnya spy bisa lbh comfortable utk meeting dlm mobil.

bayangkan saja, utk naroh laptop, jelas akan lbh enak di dlm big MPV drpd taroh di paha di dlm sedan.
pgn break dr kerja, tinggal selonjoran, ambil minuman dari kulkas atau bahkan mini bar.
bahkan klo pgn take a nap, tentu saja MPV nan lapang akan jauh lbh comfortable.

mmg dari sisi presence (baca: gengsi, pede, dsb) (misalnya ketika drop off di depan lobby), bagaimanapun, premium sedan, baik jags, merc, lexus, atau bimmer ...akan lbh membuat org menengok.
tp akomodir thdp FUNGSI yg hampir semuanya bisa dia dapatkan dr sbuah MPV, membuat kekalahan notis kehadiran ini akan msh acceptable. toh kehadiran sebuah big MPV jg gak bisa diremehkan begitu saja.

well, ane liat, sebenarnya dia mmg sudah lbh cenderung suka dg QUest/Elgrand/Alph/Velle....bahkan sejak dia msh di US.
so, apa lagi? ....apalagi krn skrg dia pakai E51, jd dah kenal dg typical plus minusnya minivan nissan, maka kalau ambil E52 pun, pastilah akan memenuhi preferensinya.

terutama bila bisa menerima "sempitnya" row3 dan luggage space, spt yg direport oleh Adjaya.
tp kalaupun tidak, mengingat dia jg masih cukup (berjiwa) muda, maka gw sarankan dan yakin kalo Vellfire pun gak akan mengecewakannya.
intinya: sebenenrya kecenderungan tsb udah cukup terlihat, cuma tinggal memantapkan hati saja.

toh kalau pgn jg pakai premium sedan utk some occasion, ntar bisa beli lagi laah.
so, apa lagi ?
note: tentu saja ane gak berkesan menggampangkan amat ya. tp realistis saja (melihat sikonnya).

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kalo yg ini ga masuk hitungan ya
model semi classic

ngiler banget sama ini mobil...

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nb.
sebenernya, gw subjectively sangat suka dg taste elegant nya LONG wheelbase Caravelle.
cm, menjadi "ilfeel" dg ke-tidak-nampak-lebar-an-nya...dg kata lain, proporsinya krg berasa bongsor (krg stand out in the crowd).
ini yg membuat secara subjektif gw gak sarankan.

note:
benchmark: bongsor adlh Escalade, TLC200, atau bahkan Hyundai H-1 (kalau samping2an, vellefire pun berasa kalah gede).

populasi (Caravelle) yg jarang, selalu membuatnya pnya advantage & disadvantage: dipandang pnya selera tersendiri & onderdil susah (lama) dapetnya, respectively.

note:
subjectif kesan yg ada di gw: klo caravelle cenedrng elegant/"ningrat" eropa, sdgkan alphard berkesan businessperson.
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Betul juga sih, kalau kita bawa entourage yang bersifat tim, terdiri dari mitra sejajar yang perlu sering mencapai hasil diskusi yang demokratis, perlu suatu mobile headquarters. Ibu saya juga pernah kepingin banget punya Teepee yang kursinya bisa diputer2 gitu, apalagi sparepartsnya nggak susah. Tapi selain jarang ada orang sanggup menghadap ke belakang tanpa mabuk darat, juga mobilnya terlalu bongsor susah memarkirnya.

Kalau bos yang lebih otokratik, yang diperlukan adalah privasi. Makanya di kantor pun, dia jarang keluar ruangnya dan selalu terjaga dari level pekerja oleh sekretaris dan petugas protokol. Kursinya juga jauuuuuh lebih mahal dari kursi bawahannya. Kalau bos seperti ini, perlu sedan yang nyaman. Khan tidak mungkin dia telpon2an sama Ketua Dewan masalah "rahasia" didengar sama banyak orang. Pak Ketua pasti marah dong.
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Koreksi dikit bro andy gw baru suka sama minivan waktu liburan ke jakarta taon 2004an(gak inget) dan kaget liat minivan yg modelnya sangar yaitu si alphard beda bgt ama minivan di us yg modelnya feminim krn emang yg pake soccer moms kecuali nissan quest yg plg baru yng emang sama dgn e52 elgrand. Kalo observasi lainnya cukup tepat terutama kebiasaan gw ngantor di mobil gw waktu 2008 pilih elgrand over alphard cuma karena 1 faktor bangku tengah yg bisa diputer jadi bisa meeting di mobil, waktu itu sempet consider caravelle juga terutama dengan adanya divider screen antara driver dan passanger area cuma pengalaman gw sama produk VAG kurang baik terutama sesudah 4 tahun.

Ngomong2 soal suv kemarin malam sempet liat2 pameran di senayan city dan yg paling eye catching adalah mini countryman dan porsche cayenne plg anyar yg kemarin di kasih liat cayenne s dengan harga 2.5m baru mau tanya cayenne hybrid brp cuma udak keburu inget omongan si bro fortunerman mengenai pajak ganda untuk hybrid jd mending gak usah tanya lagipula kemaren salesnya cw jadi gak bisa ngobrol lama2 walaupun product knowledgenya bagus(tau soal double PDK sgl macem) tp bini dah pasang tampang galak jd minta nomor dan price list aja drpd gw mesti tidur di mobil :mrgreen:

Kalo diliat dari hasil pollnya gw kayaknya anomali ya milih mpv atas sedan premium wkwkwk
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asudarsono wrote:... Ibu saya juga pernah kepingin banget punya Teepee yang kursinya bisa diputer2 gitu, apalagi sparepartsnya nggak susah..
Teepee itu apa ya bro?
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Peugeot Expert Teepee.

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bro Fortunerman & bro asudarsono sudahlah jangan diperpanjang urusan ratingnya dah mau taon baru damai2 :big_peace:
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Wah om mobil itu pasti mentoknya. Kalau mau ukuran segitu, beli bus aja. Harganya jatuh lebih murah, gampang lagi urusannya.
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wkwkw iya mirip ama metromini ukurannya btw gw masih muda(tapi bukan daun muda) jadi jangan dipanggil om dong :big_peace:
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hehehe, iya deh, bro.

Aku gak rekomend Mercy 3/4 lho. Nanti bukannya org kagum, malah org bertanya-tanya.

Sama, saya gak rekomend Teepee ke ibu saya, apalagi ke bro. BTW dilema ibu saya mirip dng bro, kepingin banget punya MPV yg enak dipakai, bisa muat cucu2 sambil ngobrol2. Pandangan pertama ke Alphard dan Serena tapi ternyata cuma muat 4 org. Nanti kasih tahu pilihannya yg mana, bro, soalnya sampai sekarang keinginannya yg ini blm kesampaian.
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Dari photo teepee diatas keliatannya cukup ok yg gw demen meja lipatnya praktis tuh buat kerja hehe si teepee ini ukuran serena ya? Btw gw cuma mau kasih tips kalo gak mau mabok duduk ngadep belakang di mpv cari yg ada blindnya di elgrand gw sealu tutup blindnya kl lg ngadep belakang dan so far gak pernah mabok darat.
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Semua mobil juga bisa dimodif pakai meja begitu deh. Menurut saya, lebih praktis model pesawat terbang, yg meja bisa dilipat masuk lengan kursi. Dulu ada tuh bus antar kota pakai kursi bekas Garuda.
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klo gw malah pilih MPV aje deh... cocok buat keluarga + bawa barang...

kalo pake sedan gtu. ane pernah denger... klo banjir sedan udah bener" kalo boleh ngebut atao 15 kpj....
coss masuk ke bagian bawah mobil... lagian kan klo mobil sedan premium begitu bukanya komputer na pada di bawah tuh.. kena air udah repot deh bnyk error na...

MPv kek na lebih tinggi tapi risk na terlalu panjang bisa bikin orang benci ngeliat parkiran di embat... apalagi parkir di gedung parkir... kek gedung parkir na di TA tuh...nissan serena aja ampe di pakasin ama mas tukang parkir na maju terus... coss kepanjagan badanya...

tuh BMW sprinter..

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Utk TS, ga coba tengok dulu grandsport terbaru dr MBenz, new R Class, 7 seater, ada 2 varian :
1. R300 Family Rp. 1,069M (OFF-TR)
2. R300 Rp. 1,249M (OFF-TR)

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maaaaakkk, meleleeehh liat nya, ane sempat bbrp kali nemu mobil ini di jalan, bodinya yang bongsor, mantep, auranya beda, ....memancarkan keangkuhaannnn.......


keren bgt dah ni mobil....... :frm_tumbright: :frm_tumbright: