Perlukah current stabilizer dan turbojet accelerator

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Re: Perlukah current stabilizer dan turbojet accelerator

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vipere wrote:testimoni produk apa aja banyak yang suka berlebihan..makanya sekarang saya gak gitu percaya ama testi.
lihat aja testi filter udara ferrox di forum sebelah. udah kayak mobilnya dipasangin turbo nulisin testinya..agak berlebihan, padahal mah paling cuman naik 0.5 - 2 hp doang emang sampe dashyat gitu testinya ? ini pembelinya kayaknya juga biar gak merasa rugi beli..wekkekekeke.
maklum nanti klo di copotin kan bisa di jual...alasannya bosan...apalg yg merk prolina harganya mahal....jut2iaw...

mobil saya klo rusak turbonya nanti mau ganti pake turbojet acelerator...trs tambah magnet biar klepnya diam....jadi lgsg terbang...pake baling2 bambu dr turbojet...
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Pada saat tenaga puncak, daya turun 10% dan konsumsi naik 20%. Mobil 100hp dengan fc 10l/100km tinggal 90hp dan konsumsi jadi 12l/100km? Sudah jatuh tertimpa cat.

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octafiantos wrote:Pada saat tenaga puncak, daya turun 10% dan konsumsi naik 20%. Mobil 100hp dengan fc 10l/100km tinggal 90hp dan konsumsi jadi 12l/100km? Sudah jatuh tertimpa cat.

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Mitsubishi cyclone engine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... YBAsjAstus


JDM cyclone intake manifold untuk Galant VR-4:
http://www.dsmtuners.com/threads/got-bo ... ld.242024/
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Versi non cyclone:
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Cyclone air filter Mitsubishi pajero:
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.bh/pro ... res03.html
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Efek cyclone:
http://www.galantvr4.org/ubbthreads/sho ... =2&fpart=1
Hi guys, Your thoughts on a Magnus intake manifold vs. a cyclone stock intake manifold? pro's and con's?

It depends on the rest of your setup and/or future upgrade plans. The Cyclone manifold was designed specifically for the stock motor and the stock rev limiter. By using dual runners it maximizes torque at low rpms, helps with spooling the turbo faster and allows the engine to rev pretty much to the limiter before it falls off (on the stock turbo).

If you start doing engine work, specifically head-work and add a larger turbo the cyclone can become a bottleneck BUT there are plenty of people who have put down very healthy power figures on both stock USDM and cyclone manifolds so they aren't as restrictive as you might think. The big problem (if you can call it that) is that they wont allow the engine to continue to make power after about 6500-7000 rpms which makes them unattractive for the drag strip where guys may be pushing anywhere from 8000-9500 rpms.

For a street car with anything up to an EVO III 16G, I think you'll be happy with the Cyclone. If you are going to spend a lot of time at the track or add a much larger turbo you might want to consider the Magnus. It's a trade off, low end torque and faster spool up for more top end. That's the low down pretty much. Which of the two is more important to you, only you can decide!

Edit: I'd be interested to hear from Brianawd and turbowop on this one as they are running similar setups and the same turbo but Brian has a Ported 2G Manifold whilst Mark has the Magnus. It would be interesting to hear what the difference is in torque and top end as I believe both cars are knocking on the door of low 11s.

you have to think about what you want. A car that makes just a little more power up to from 6600rpm to about 8000rpms(if using stock head) or a car that makes good power from 4500rpms to 6600rpms
kesimpulan saya dari postingan tersebut, cyclone intake cocok hanya untuk rpm rendah menengah. Apalagi dikatakan cyclone mencegah mesin dapat tenaga di rpm atas. Jadi kalau asalnya nggak pakai cyclone, tenaga mesin di rpm atas disimpulkan akan turun setelah pakai cyclone.

Saya dulu pernah coba cyclone buatan sendiri di Suzuki Crystal tune. Tenaga dan akselerasi mantap tapi top speed turun.
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Drpd pasang itu, mending pasang handle krum kyk modgaton,... Lbh bertenaga katanya. Dyno naik 2000whp,... :ngacir:
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saya di mobil cuma pake afr knn, busi iridium sama xcs3 n ground cable... hahahha lumayan2 aja sih tarikannya
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Biasanya saya konsul ke bengkel sbelumnya..tp rasa penasaran..
Di e36 saya pasang ground tarik kabel dr bagasi sampe ke mesin lewat lantai...ukuran kabel utama hampir segede jempol..sore selesai pasang...besoknya siang saya ke bmw minta bongkar kabel utama..diketawain dibengkel..

Volt stabilizer waktu itu krn lg senang main audio...bikin susah nutup cover aki...berhubung cepat bosan n pingin standar rapi akhirnya copot semua...

Di mobil jepang pasang turbo ciclon bisa bongkar pasang cm lempengen stanlis di susun..mikir2 gak ada guna...copotin tp murah barangnya cm 100.rb tahun 98-99..ada yg pasang di intake 4 biji sampe dijual mobilnya gak di copotin...walo saya gak lihat barang yg dipasang di intake...

Msh penasaran..

Di e36 sempat mau beli turbojet acelerator merk prolina ini di sesuaikan dgn mesin 4 ato 6 silinder...seingat buat e36 320i antara 2,8 jt-3 jutaan seingat tahun 2003-2004...ragu tp pgn coba trs..

Suatu hari ada servis e36 di kmayoran bmw ngobrol2 dgn mekanik tentang turbojet kbetulan ada customer yg copotin n mau dijual saya coba mekanik pasang...

Untunglah kagak beli...

Saya gak ada merasa bikin tambah kencang...

Sama dgn pake oli 0-20 ada yg merasa bikin tambah kencang...klo saya sama aja ..cuma teknologi baru n diakui dunia ya bagi saya wajib di nikmati..
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Besok trit jadul apa lagi yg muncul :mky_02: :mky_02: :mky_02:
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Ane tetap approve untuk Orgasme energy :big_smoking:

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Bisa bikin chassis twist dan suspensi mantul2 saking hebohnya... :big_smoking:


















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Mitsubishi cyclone engine itu termasuk dalam kategori vortex generator. Karena vortex generator bahkan dipakai oleh pabrikan dan ada puluhan orang yang bisa beneran mengirit bensin dengan vortex generator maka seharusnya itu tidak masuk ke daftar hall of shame. Vortex generator jelas bukanlah wicked device. Begitu malah dimasukkan daftar di nomer 2.

Hall of shamenya populer mechanic menurut saya dibuat oleh orang yang nggak ngerti tapi merasa sudah tahu semua.

Bila ada yang gagal, saran saya jangan menggali ilmu dari yang gagal tapi dari orang yang sudah sukses mendapatkan hasil. Cari dulu orang yang berhasil. Jangan malas untuk membuat sendiri karena kalau beli akan lebih banyak ketipunya.
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sucahyo wrote:
Hall of shamenya populer mechanic menurut saya dibuat oleh orang yang nggak ngerti tapi merasa sudah tahu semua.

Bila ada yang gagal, saran saya jangan menggali ilmu dari yang gagal tapi dari orang yang sudah sukses mendapatkan hasil. Cari dulu orang yang berhasil. Jangan malas untuk membuat sendiri karena kalau beli akan lebih banyak ketipunya.
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perlu banget current n voltage stabilizer,
pertanyaannya, di kendaraan bawaan dh ada belum?
kalau sdh ada n berfungsi baik, ngapain pasang2 gimmick ky gt,
turbojet accelerator?
yang muter2 baling2 gk jelas ato semacam cyclone mitsubishi?
yang muter2 n plug n play itu mending dilepas saja,
kalau bawaan mobil, itu memang berfungsi,
pusaran udara dimanfaatkan melontarkan kotoran/partikel berdasar gaya sentrifugal, sehingga filter udara lebih lama usai pakainya.
pusaran udara di inlet menaikkan air speed, air speed tinggi, ev lebih tinggi, bisa menaikkan torsi. cuma desain ky gitu gk bisa buat putaran tinggi, karena menghambat.
sejak teknologi injeksi dan variable valve umum digunakan, cyclone itu jadi semacam teknologi usang, tapi siapa tahu dipakai lagi di masa depan dimana mesin hybrid umum digunakan, dan engine berubah karakter dari "rpm berapa aja tenaga ada",
jadi mesin dengan "rpm tertentu aja tenaga ada" yang lebih efisien.
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saya dah beli & pasang cyclone n air filter apex kw super seperti itu..kalau ga ngefek berarti siap ane buang saja :big_bored:
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Filter replacement mah bisa dipake Om, asal rajin bersihin aja ada gunanya kok - paling tidak gak perlu tiap kali beli filter udara he..he..he..kalo "kitiran maut" mah copot, buang aja.
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ecco wrote:Filter replacement mah bisa dipake Om, asal rajin bersihin aja ada gunanya kok - paling tidak gak perlu tiap kali beli filter udara he..he..he..kalo "kitiran maut" mah copot, buang aja.
kitiran maut nya 260rb include ongkir om, hiks.. ane buang tahun depan saja deh.. [emoji30]
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memphisraines wrote:
ecco wrote:Filter replacement mah bisa dipake Om, asal rajin bersihin aja ada gunanya kok - paling tidak gak perlu tiap kali beli filter udara he..he..he..kalo "kitiran maut" mah copot, buang aja.
kitiran maut nya 260rb include ongkir om, hiks.. ane buang tahun depan saja deh.. [emoji30]
Dulu saya beli merek lain lebih mahal Om, itung2 beli pengalaman dah...sekarang tiap ada yang mau beli selalu saya kasih tau mending duit simpen buat beli yang lain seperti Oli bagus atau buat nambahin ganti shock he..he..he..
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ecco wrote:
memphisraines wrote:
ecco wrote:Filter replacement mah bisa dipake Om, asal rajin bersihin aja ada gunanya kok - paling tidak gak perlu tiap kali beli filter udara he..he..he..kalo "kitiran maut" mah copot, buang aja.
kitiran maut nya 260rb include ongkir om, hiks.. ane buang tahun depan saja deh.. [emoji30]
Dulu saya beli merek lain lebih mahal Om, itung2 beli pengalaman dah...sekarang tiap ada yang mau beli selalu saya kasih tau mending duit simpen buat beli yang lain seperti Oli bagus atau buat nambahin ganti shock he..he..he..
iya om, padahal uang segitu bisa untuk tambahan beli headlamp, banyak retak rambut di mika nya.. pemilik dahulu sering njemur bahenol.. untungnya cat ga terlalu pudar
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