Pengamatan Wuling Confero S di PRJ
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Pengamatan Wuling Confero S di PRJ
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Impresi sementara
- Posisi pedal kopling dan rem dekat (agak kelewat dekat) krn Trans tunnel lebar
- Overall driving position lumayan
- Finishing interior baik utk di kelas harganya
- Panel gak interior bbrp agak besar, tapi yah masi oke lah mengingat harganya
Mesin :
- Lag TBW kerasa banget......wkwkwk
- Tarikan biasa2 aja (agak kurang)
Transmisi & kopling :
Tuas transmisi ringan, perpindahan gigi enak
Gigi 1 nya pendek yah
Coba Test start dr gigi 2 bisa, nggak ngelitik
Rem :
Berhubung unit TD baru jalan 106 km, rem belom break in
Rem masi terasa nge gelosorrr
Turning circle :
Turning circle mayan kecil
Handling
Berhubung arena TD sgt sgt kecil ya gak bisa berbuat banyak
Tapi ane coba nikung dgn di gas......not bad.......
Kesimpulan sementara :
PRO :
- Leg room & head room penumpang tengah lega
- USB charge utk baris tengah dan baris ke 3
- Fitur2
- Mobil yg sekilas terasa paling solid di range harga 155 - 165 jt OTR
- Garansi mesin & powertrain 5 tahun
CON :
- Lag TBW agak parah
- Utk cat warna hitam, kulit jeruknya ampunnn.......wkwkwkwk
Dan biarkan foto2 berbicara aja dah (saya gak foto exterior krn foto2 banyak di media)
pelindung mesin bag bawah
Baut Hexagon
Jok baris ke 3 buatan LEAR
Area shock mount cukup rapi utk mobil harga segini
Impresi sementara
- Posisi pedal kopling dan rem dekat (agak kelewat dekat) krn Trans tunnel lebar
- Overall driving position lumayan
- Finishing interior baik utk di kelas harganya
- Panel gak interior bbrp agak besar, tapi yah masi oke lah mengingat harganya
Mesin :
- Lag TBW kerasa banget......wkwkwk
- Tarikan biasa2 aja (agak kurang)
Transmisi & kopling :
Tuas transmisi ringan, perpindahan gigi enak
Gigi 1 nya pendek yah
Coba Test start dr gigi 2 bisa, nggak ngelitik
Rem :
Berhubung unit TD baru jalan 106 km, rem belom break in
Rem masi terasa nge gelosorrr
Turning circle :
Turning circle mayan kecil
Handling
Berhubung arena TD sgt sgt kecil ya gak bisa berbuat banyak
Tapi ane coba nikung dgn di gas......not bad.......
Kesimpulan sementara :
PRO :
- Leg room & head room penumpang tengah lega
- USB charge utk baris tengah dan baris ke 3
- Fitur2
- Mobil yg sekilas terasa paling solid di range harga 155 - 165 jt OTR
- Garansi mesin & powertrain 5 tahun
CON :
- Lag TBW agak parah
- Utk cat warna hitam, kulit jeruknya ampunnn.......wkwkwkwk
Dan biarkan foto2 berbicara aja dah (saya gak foto exterior krn foto2 banyak di media)
pelindung mesin bag bawah
Baut Hexagon
Jok baris ke 3 buatan LEAR
Area shock mount cukup rapi utk mobil harga segini
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walaupun ada panel gap yang beberapa rada bikin sakit mata, tapi gimana soal kualitas plastik nya om ? apakah kayak plastik ember jelek atau bisa bersaing dengan beberapa merk jepang di kisaran harga sama ?
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Lag TBW jika dibanding avanza NR bgmn om?
BTW ini thread gk digabung yg udh ada aja?
BTW ini thread gk digabung yg udh ada aja?
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kualitas material en finishing plastik interior sih cukup baikvinchazz wrote:walaupun ada panel gap yang beberapa rada bikin sakit mata, tapi gimana soal kualitas plastik nya om ? apakah kayak plastik ember jelek atau bisa bersaing dengan beberapa merk jepang di kisaran harga sama ?
kecuali bagian atas dasbor itu plastiknya tipisss........yg warna coklat tua
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Buset... itu tekstur kulit jeruk di cat warna hitamnya keliatan banget, kaya mobil abis cat ulang asuransi
Jangan nginjek gas dalam dalam, boros, mending nyantai aja
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Re: Pengamatan Wuling Confero S di PRJ
asal bisa menggaet konsumen komersial dan terbukti reliabel bbrp tahun di siksa, saya rasa konsumen pribadi akan mengikuti.
kl langsung sasar konsumen pribadi rasanya koq berat.
kl langsung sasar konsumen pribadi rasanya koq berat.
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mobil ini belum ada transmisi maticnya ya?
Apa yang paling berharga bagiku?
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kulit jeruk di warna hitam, paling keliatan terutama di panel di bawah kaca samping paling belakang, lanjut ke pintu tengah.......wkwkwkwkwk
udah test drive juga yah um ?
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Belum, di china saja hanya manual tidak ada matik
Oh yang di atas dasbor ya? Dari foto sih keliatannya "mengkilap" yah, kayak plastik mainan wkwkwkwk tapi ntar kalau lihat langsung kayak gimanaTurboman wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:04kualitas material en finishing plastik interior sih cukup baikvinchazz wrote:walaupun ada panel gap yang beberapa rada bikin sakit mata, tapi gimana soal kualitas plastik nya om ? apakah kayak plastik ember jelek atau bisa bersaing dengan beberapa merk jepang di kisaran harga sama ?
kecuali bagian atas dasbor itu plastiknya tipisss........yg warna coklat tua
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Re: Pengamatan Wuling Confero S di PRJ
Notbad lah untuk harga segitu , mengingat Avanza E dan Mobilio S OTR nya udah gak terjangkau masyarakat bawah .
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Om TS & para Sesepuh, kalo seandainya di posisi saya, apakah berani beli mobil ini, mohon masukannya. Posisi saya sbb :
1. Skrg pake LMPV R3 COP kantor, setahun lagi lunas
2. Tahun depan bisa ambil lagi, platform diatas Confero dikit
3. Kepikiran ambil mobil ini krn murah, yg lama dijual spy dapat cashnya utk invest property.
Btw, jual sekrg pun bisa, tapi berarti hrs nutup sisa utang mobil lama ( 20 jutaan ).
Terimakasih & maaf kalo OOT.
1. Skrg pake LMPV R3 COP kantor, setahun lagi lunas
2. Tahun depan bisa ambil lagi, platform diatas Confero dikit
3. Kepikiran ambil mobil ini krn murah, yg lama dijual spy dapat cashnya utk invest property.
Btw, jual sekrg pun bisa, tapi berarti hrs nutup sisa utang mobil lama ( 20 jutaan ).
Terimakasih & maaf kalo OOT.
Santai dijalan, nikmati hidup.
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kita lihat perkembangan umpatrickstar wrote:Om TS & para Sesepuh, kalo seandainya di posisi saya, apakah berani beli mobil ini, mohon masukannya. Posisi saya sbb :
1. Skrg pake LMPV R3 COP kantor, setahun lagi lunas
2. Tahun depan bisa ambil lagi, platform diatas Confero dikit
3. Kepikiran ambil mobil ini krn murah, yg lama dijual spy dapat cashnya utk invest property.
Btw, jual sekrg pun bisa, tapi berarti hrs nutup sisa utang mobil lama ( 20 jutaan ).
Terimakasih & maaf kalo OOT.
diler2 nya si grup Arista (yg dulu pegang Ford juga)
Mesin WuLing ini filter oli model spin on kaleng kayak mobil2 Jepun, mestinya gak susah cari substitusi nya
Suspensi belakang modelnya sgt mirip Vanza, solid axle / panhard rod dan shock miring ke arah belakang, shock alternative tinggal cari yg travel nya mirip aja
ECU - engine management system by Continental
tinggal gimana soal air filter / ball joints / tie rod ends / tie rod arm / brake pads, akankah importir parts akan masukkin segera dlm waktu dekat gak
juga parts AC spt Evap / Rec dryer
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Ngelihat mobil ini, berasa AX dan Rushter mahal betul dengan fitur yang sama.. (diluar crash test dll sih ya)
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toyodai untung gueedeeee bangeddd jual AX & RusTer. wkwkwkwk. kalau gak kompetitor mungkin harga maxi fitur minimalis.
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hmm under carriage nya lumayan ya om
sekilas dari foto kayaknya gak rapi rapi banget, tapi gak jelek juga, sudah di cat sebagian besar, mengingat harganya nampaknya masih bisa dibiliang cukup oke ya .
sekilas dari foto kayaknya gak rapi rapi banget, tapi gak jelek juga, sudah di cat sebagian besar, mengingat harganya nampaknya masih bisa dibiliang cukup oke ya .
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Terimakasih saran & infonya Om. Kayanya perlu nunggu hasil batch 1 dulu.Turboman wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 1:31kita lihat perkembangan umpatrickstar wrote:Om TS & para Sesepuh, kalo seandainya di posisi saya, apakah berani beli mobil ini, mohon masukannya. Posisi saya sbb :
1. Skrg pake LMPV R3 COP kantor, setahun lagi lunas
2. Tahun depan bisa ambil lagi, platform diatas Confero dikit
3. Kepikiran ambil mobil ini krn murah, yg lama dijual spy dapat cashnya utk invest property.
Btw, jual sekrg pun bisa, tapi berarti hrs nutup sisa utang mobil lama ( 20 jutaan ).
Terimakasih & maaf kalo OOT.
diler2 nya si grup Arista (yg dulu pegang Ford juga)
Mesin WuLing ini filter oli model spin on kaleng kayak mobil2 Jepun, mestinya gak susah cari substitusi nya
Suspensi belakang modelnya sgt mirip Vanza, solid axle / panhard rod dan shock miring ke arah belakang, shock alternative tinggal cari yg travel nya mirip aja
ECU - engine management system by Continental
tinggal gimana soal air filter / ball joints / tie rod ends / tie rod arm / brake pads, akankah importir parts akan masukkin segera dlm waktu dekat gak
juga parts AC spt Evap / Rec dryer
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Re: Pengamatan Wuling Confero S di PRJ
Ternyata mesin si Confero ini type aslinya
GM LM9 engine
http://www.gmpowertrain.com/engines/1-5l-lm9.html
http://www.gmpowertrain.com/engines/doc ... %20PDF.pdf
The Family B Gen2 1.5L I-4 CNG engine is a compact inline four-cylinder engine that combines
competitive performance with sophisticated technologies such as increased intake/exhaust
efficiency, port deactivation, and low-friction engine oil with low maintenance, low emissions,
and outstanding fuel economy.
Lightweight and High-Stiffness Gen2 Cylinder Block
•
Gray cast iron provides an extremely durable foundation, optimized with a deep
skirt that minimizes both wear and vibration.
•
The block supports greater loads than that used in previous-generation engines,
and it improves the overall rigidity of the engine/transmission assembly.
High-Performance Cylinder Head
•
The aluminum cylinder head has been optimized for the addition of a high-intake
port and hardened valve and valve seat for alternative fuel.
Low-Friction and High-Wear Resistance Piston & Piston Ring
•
Ring tension was optimized for both low friction and low oil consumption.
•
A Physical Vapor Deposition (PVD) was applied to the oil ring, resulting in less
ring wear/better oil consumption at high mileage.
•
Anodized coating on piston top land and PVD coating on top and oil ring is used
to avoid wear for alternative-fuel-capable engines.
Less Reciprocating Mass
•
Components in the 1.5L were developed for an optimum mix of strength,
balance, and low weight.
•
There is less reciprocating mass inside the engine, increasing efficiency.
•
The forged-steel connecting rods incorporate a weight-optimized I-beam design.
Cam Drive System – Inverted Tooth Chain
•
The cam drive system employs a ¼" inverted tooth chain with hydraulic tensioner
that controls proper tension through the entire engine speed.
•
Provides excellent durability and a very low noise characteristic, as well as
considerable space savings.
ADDITIONAL FEATURES
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Intake manifold port deactivation
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Electronic throttle control
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Mechanical tappets
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Individual coil on plug with driver
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Hardened valve seat for
alternative fuel (CNG)
Blok mesin Cast iron
Berarti bisa dipasangi
GM LM9 engine
http://www.gmpowertrain.com/engines/1-5l-lm9.html
http://www.gmpowertrain.com/engines/doc ... %20PDF.pdf
The Family B Gen2 1.5L I-4 CNG engine is a compact inline four-cylinder engine that combines
competitive performance with sophisticated technologies such as increased intake/exhaust
efficiency, port deactivation, and low-friction engine oil with low maintenance, low emissions,
and outstanding fuel economy.
Lightweight and High-Stiffness Gen2 Cylinder Block
•
Gray cast iron provides an extremely durable foundation, optimized with a deep
skirt that minimizes both wear and vibration.
•
The block supports greater loads than that used in previous-generation engines,
and it improves the overall rigidity of the engine/transmission assembly.
High-Performance Cylinder Head
•
The aluminum cylinder head has been optimized for the addition of a high-intake
port and hardened valve and valve seat for alternative fuel.
Low-Friction and High-Wear Resistance Piston & Piston Ring
•
Ring tension was optimized for both low friction and low oil consumption.
•
A Physical Vapor Deposition (PVD) was applied to the oil ring, resulting in less
ring wear/better oil consumption at high mileage.
•
Anodized coating on piston top land and PVD coating on top and oil ring is used
to avoid wear for alternative-fuel-capable engines.
Less Reciprocating Mass
•
Components in the 1.5L were developed for an optimum mix of strength,
balance, and low weight.
•
There is less reciprocating mass inside the engine, increasing efficiency.
•
The forged-steel connecting rods incorporate a weight-optimized I-beam design.
Cam Drive System – Inverted Tooth Chain
•
The cam drive system employs a ¼" inverted tooth chain with hydraulic tensioner
that controls proper tension through the entire engine speed.
•
Provides excellent durability and a very low noise characteristic, as well as
considerable space savings.
ADDITIONAL FEATURES
•
Intake manifold port deactivation
•
Electronic throttle control
•
Mechanical tappets
•
Individual coil on plug with driver
•
Hardened valve seat for
alternative fuel (CNG)
Blok mesin Cast iron
Berarti bisa dipasangi
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Re: Pengamatan Wuling Confero S di PRJ
Mesin Confero S dan Spin bensin sgt mirip ???
Spin
Confero S
lihat posisi sensor camshaft-nya
GM (Daewoo) S TEC III
Bagus kalo byk komponen yg sama
CMIIW
Spin
Confero S
lihat posisi sensor camshaft-nya
GM (Daewoo) S TEC III
Bagus kalo byk komponen yg sama
CMIIW
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Re: Pengamatan Wuling Confero S di PRJ
mesin sih keknya sama yak, kalo di India Chevrolet enjoy pake mesin fiat diesel juga, tapi karena dia rear wheel drive jadi posisi nya di rotate gitu dan ada power loss juga keknya(cmiiw)
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Re: Pengamatan Wuling Confero S di PRJ
Pengaruh penggerak roda belakang ya, kalau Spin FWD17Herdy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:47 wah mesinnya sepin di puter ya jadi vertikal
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Continental? Spin pake acdelco e83. Klo guling pake conti mah gila aja. Masa lmpv hrs bench read write,...
FWD + eRWD + 4WD + 4WD =