ALL NEW X-Trail & TIIDA hatchback for 2006-Almost confir

[Sithlord]

I ada berita menarik. And this time bukan dari sales Nissan nor my spy droid. The story goes like this :

Recently I iseng mampir ke dealer Nissan yang I kenal baik. I bicara ama service advisornya. Dan saya iseng tanya " Mas, tahun ini Nissan mau keluar apa yah ? "

Then dia bilang " Akan keluar mobil kecil. " Terus I say Tiida hatchback bukan ? " He says " Yes ! "

And he dropped another, bigger bombshell. He says " Juga nanti pertengahan akan muncul ALL NEW X-Trail ! "

I was very sceptical about this. Masa di Jepang mau keluar di Indo juga bisa bersamaan ? So I interogasi dia lagi " R U Sure ? Mungkin cuman facelift doang atau versi 2.0 ! "

Terus he replied, based on his past experience, kalau cuman facelift doang, atau keluar versi 2.0 yang sudah pakai mesin Serena (yang mereka sudah di training), NGAK BAKAL ada training di pabrik Nissan !

So what he means is, all service advisors will attend a training session in mid of this year for the ALL NEW X-Trail !

I tell U, even after hearing this, I masih ngak percaya All new X-Trail akan tiba di Indonesia sedemikian cepat !

BUT, still, I give the service advisors words some benefit of the doubt. Bisa saja kali ini Nissan tahun 2005 mahkota no1 SUV in Indonesianya di ambil kembali ama Honda. And that makes Nissan VERY UPSET ! Mukanya mau di taru di mana ?

Sooo, Nissan MAY have decided to grap the crown back for GOOD ! Istilah they want to tell Honda " Lets have a final fight and decide on the winner for good ! " Di film silat, istilah " Cue I Si Can ! " Final duel to decide the winner !

Sekaligus keluar X-Trail baru yang juga nanti baru akan muncul di Jepang ! And this time, like other SMers yang dengar rumour, mungkin sekaligus keluar versi 2.0 dan M/T.

Pray that the new X-Trail will use the new MR20DEs, dan juga seperti contoh yang di pakai di website Nissan, uses the new self healing clear coat paint ! Cause di photo itu, jelas kap mesinnya yang di lapisi clear coat adalah the current X-Trail !

Cuman memang I will be shocked if this is used. I also think ngak secepat itu. But well, no harm praying ! Cause waxing is a tiring chore !

So, if all these are true, it means this year and next will be hectic ones for Nissan. Tiida hatchback and all new X-Trail this year, and the AUV + AUV brother next year. All these should help propel them to their target of 40,000 per year ! Bisa lebih iya kalau saya bilang !

But still, I still can't believe this new X-Trail akan tiba. Still, FYI, I cerita kisah ini di sini. For those who wants to buy an SUV or hatchback lebih besar dari Jazz / Yaris and willing to pay extra. Cause dengar the Tiida hatchback will use the 1800 cc engine.

Time will tell if my service advisor's words are accurate. If yes, then he is even a better source of info than my droid !

FYI !

[conan]

So what he means is, all service advisors will attend a training session in mid of this year for the ALL NEW X-Trail !

I tell U, even after hearing this, I masih ngak percaya All new X-Trail akan tiba di Indonesia sedemikian cepat !

Sebenarnya kan ini hal yang biasa2 saja, Dark Lord. Apa yang perlu diherankan?
Seperti yang sering kukatakan pada Anda, untuk mengganti generasi model yang sudah dirakit di Indo itu perkara gampang, hanya dalam hitungan minggu saja sudah bisa dilakukan. Buktinya, lihat saja new Civic yang sudah akan diluncurkan di sini, padahal baru diluncurkan di Jepang. Dan SETIAP generasi Civic atau Corolla pada dekade2 sebelumnya.

Demikian pula dengan CRV pada tahun 2002 dulu, dan CRV baru nanti. New Stream juga. New Camry juga. New X-Trail juga.

Satu2nya yang aneh kan kasus C25! Seharusnya sejak tahun lalu kita sudah bisa beli C25. Tapi karena C24 datangnya sangat, sangat terlambat, maka sekarang C25 akan datang sangat, sangat terlambat juga. Aneh kan, kita bisa beli new X-Trail duluan, padahal new X-Trail lebih muda satu tahun daripada C25? Apa kerugiannya? Ketika C25 akhirnya diluncurkan, sudah tidak fresh lagi, tidak seperti new X-Trail yang sangat fresh. Kenapa pembeli Serena dibedakan? Kenapa tidak dianggap kelas satu seperti pembeli X-Trail, yang diberikan sajian sangat fresh..?

Apakah Anda akhirnya menyadarinya sekarang?

Dengan munculnya Tiida (akhirnya, setelah peluncurannya tahun 2004 lalu) dan new X-Trail (yang tepat pada waktunya), tampaknya NMI sudah menyadari kesalahan mereka dan tidak akan mengulanginya lagi.

[Sithlord]

I read that anda di bidang industry yang pakai Toluenenya banyak. No wonder U sometimes gampang explode ! Dan volatile sekali ! Been working with too much Toluene ? Hati hati ! And do wear a mask !

Abt the c25 thing. At least NO OTHER country except their home country got the c25 early ! Not the Malaysians, not the Taiwanese ! So at least we are late, so are the other General overseas markets of Nissan !

I am thinking, kenapa bisa begitu ? Well, I do thought of one POSSIBLE reason. Jelas pasti U atau SMer lain ngak setuju. But its OK.

My guess is, look. Tau sendiri Serena itu mobil amat penting untuk Nissan di pasar Jepang. Look at the sales there ! That model kan salah satu best top volume among all JDM Nissans ! Volumenya sebulan di situ seperti kijang di Indo. We are talking about 6000+ a month !

Nah ! Kalau model macam X-Trail, CRV, tau sendiri, di Jepang malah volumenya amat kecil di banding minivans, minicars, mini hatchbacks etc. Malah X-Trail / CRV ngak pernah masuk top 10 best selling cars in Japan, both for Honda and Nissan.

Sooo, bisa saja, Serena c25 Nissan prediksi volumenya amat besar. So they decided to supply the huge Japanese market first !

Kalau X-Trail, demandnya di Jepang jauh lebih kecil banding c25. So its a lot easier and much more spare capacity to spare for outside markets like Indonesia !

6000+ a month is a big number for any car maker, any model. Its just possible that supplying Japan already takes up all their c25 production capacity. So they decided to delay the c25 supply to outside Japan markets first.

Look at Innova for example. Volume 6000+ saja waiting list 6 bulan lebih dulu ! Dan itupun TAM saja ada kena delay sebelum mereka bisa export innova ke tetangga. Itupun maksa, akibatnya IDM (Indonesian domestic model) di korbankan soalnya mungkin Indo sudah biasa tunggu kijang 6 bulan lebih juga its OK ! Malah lebih heboh ! Bikin resale valuenya sip !

Kalau di Jepang, if Nissan also maksa supply c25 in big numbers to outside Japan markets, apakah orang Jepang rela seperti orang Indo, tunggu beli c25 perlu berapa bulan ?

Again U guys may disagree, tapi its just my guess. Cause think about it. Kalau bukan ada kendala, some valid reasons, Nissan SENGAJA jual c24 terus c25 muncul ngak lama lagi, untungnya apa ?

Kalau bilang demi dapat volume c24 juga tanggung. Untuk Nissan yang tiap tahun jual sekitar 3.5 juta mobil di seluruh dunia, volume c24 di Indo yang cuman 200+ sebulan ngak ada artinya. Its just a drop in the ocean for them. My guess pasti logistical reasons.

Tapi I see the trend is getting better. Perhaps Nissan is getting richer, expanding their capacity every year. Look at the pattern. X-Trail lahir di Jepang sekitar tahun 2000 atau 2001. And arrives CKD in Indo tahun 2003.

Now, only 3 years later, the new one arrives. So they are obviusly closing the gap between Indo and Japan. And I think the c25 will arrive in 2008, 4 years after c24, and c26 in 2011-2012, 3-4 years later. As my convergence guess. So after a few more years, everything will be in sync with Japan hopefully.

Now, lets wait and see when the new Honda CRV and new Toyota RAV will come. As I say, better late than never !

[conan]

He, Anda enak saja mengataiku 'mudah meledak', 'emosi unstable' dll, tapi sadarkah bahwa Anda jauh lebih banyak menggunakan tanda '!' daripadaku? Didn't they teach you back at school what the exclamation mark means, Sir?

[conan]

I am thinking, kenapa bisa begitu ? Well, I do thought of one POSSIBLE reason. Jelas pasti U atau SMer lain ngak setuju. But its OK.

My guess is, look. Tau sendiri Serena itu mobil amat penting untuk Nissan di pasar Jepang. Look at the sales there ! That model kan salah satu best top volume among all JDM Nissans !

Puh, asal bicara lagi seperti biasa. Asumsi sendiri dianggap sebagai FAKTA, hmm?

Volume Serena besar? Volume Tiida tidak kalah besar, Pak, volume Vitz (Yaris) juga malah lebih besar lagi! Baca saja laporan top 10 penjualan mobil di Jepang yang pernah diposting Mr. Observer :

http://www.serayamotor.com/diskusi/view ... ht=top+ten

Teman2, penjualan Honda Fit tetap diatas Vitz, Stepwagon tetap diatas Serena.


September
1. Toyota Corolla - 15.016
2. Honda Fit - 12.793
3. Honda Stepwagon - 11.814
4. Toyota Vitz - 11.439
5. Nissan Serena - 10.524
6. Nissan Tiida - 10.381
7. Nissan ??? - 9.733
8. Toyota ? - 9.324
9. Toyota Passo - 8.011
10. Toyota Noah - 7.864

Dan reality check : Yaris sudah tiba di Indo dan Tiida juga segera tiba!

Mau alasan apalagi, Dark Lord?

[Sithlord]

Toluene, BOOM !

Luckily, I also work in an industry where we also use lots of liquid. Good for me cause I play with the most harmless liquid of all - WATER ! It cannot get any better than that ! Ya ada bahan lain, tapi mayoritas adalah water !

Well, then perhaps U can tell me why do U think Nissan delay the c25 here. What kind of benefit do they get vs the disadvantages they got.

For me, jelas benefitnya cuman tiap bulan sekitar 200 biji c24. Artinya tiap tahun bisa jual 2400 c24. Plus or minus this figure depending on economic situation.

But anyway the Jazz dan Yaris juga ngak langsung mendarat kok. They appear in Japan for a year or 2 before arriving here. Tau sendiri itu Yaris di Jepang juga sudah ada umur. So is the Jazz before arriving here.

JARANG sekali model JDM lahir di Jepang ama Indonesia bersamaan atau cuman selisih berapa bulan !

Oh of course I know what ! means. Tapi in my context its not shouting at anyone. Its just to stress a point !

Like the name of the indovision program E-entertainment. Symbolnya E! Sampai saya tiap kali bilang itu EI sampai istri protest, itu E doang !

Maybe its time someone get more photos of the new X-Trail since probably dia akan tiba soon !

[conan]

Well, then perhaps U can tell me why do U think Nissan delay the c25 here. What kind of benefit do they get vs the disadvantages they got.

NO BENEFIT AT ALL!

Tau sendiri itu Yaris di Jepang juga sudah ada umur

Hello?? Vitz (Yaris) baru diluncurkan di Jepang akhir tahun lalu!

JARANG sekali model JDM lahir di Jepang ama Indonesia bersamaan atau cuman selisih berapa bulan !

Lagi-lagi, Anda ini IGNORANT!

BEDAKAN antara yang baru 'LAHIR' seperti Yaris : dari tidak ada menjadi ada, tentu butuh waktu untuk menyiapkan line perakitan (dalam hal ini, Yaris luar biasa cepat! ),

DAN,

Yang sudah ADA line perakitannya, seperti : Accord, Civic, Camry, CRV, X-Trail, DAN, SERENA! Untuk Serena sudah ada sejak abad lalu, sejak zaman C23!

Untuk yg sudah lama exist ini, ganti model itu perkara GAMPANG, Pak!
Bahkan bukan hanya gampang, tapi harus segera ganti model baru karena stok parts yang dikirim toh sudah model baru punya.

Tapi pada kasus Serena, negara2 Asean termasuk Indo, dijadikan tempat 'pembuangan' stok lama C24 yang tampaknya menumpuk karena penjualan mandeg sejak tahun 1999, karena Nissan sedang sakit.
Jadi stok parts lama itu di-facelift seadanya dan dilempar ke Asean, sementara Jepang dapat model barunya, C25.

Padahal seharusnya tahun ini C25 dan new X-Trail akan berdampingan, keduanya dengan mesin MR20DE dan X-Tronic CVT, produk FRESH dari Jepang, hanya hitungan bulan sejak diluncurkan di Jepang.

Tapi tampaknya hanya X-Trail saja yang fresh!

[TomS]

Yaris itu masih CBU Thailand, kelihatannya tanpa perlu dirakit lagi di sini bisa langsung dijual.
Mungkin kalau ternyata penjualannya tinggi, TAM bisa minta jatah agar dirakit di sini, mirip Honda Jazz
Di Thailand sendiri, mereka sudah tambah investasi untuk mobil ini, sudah di-planning jauh hari sebelum ganti model.

[conan]

Yaris itu masih CBU Thailand, kelihatannya tanpa perlu dirakit lagi di sini bisa langsung dijual.
Mungkin kalau ternyata penjualannya tinggi, TAM bisa minta jatah agar dirakit di sini, mirip Honda Jazz
Di Thailand sendiri, mereka sudah tambah investasi untuk mobil ini, sudah di-planning jauh hari sebelum ganti model.

Ya, Mr. TomS, aku tahu kalau Yaris itu CKD Thailand. Maksudku Toyota harus menyiapkan terlebih dahulu line perakitan Yaris di Thailand, karena generasi Yaris sebelumnya belum dirakit di Asean...

[Sithlord]

Kalau mau bilang Nissan jual c24 ke kita cuman untuk buang stok lama yang ngak laku, I TIDAK setuju. Cause jaman sekarang saya yakin hampir semua pabrik mobil Jepang pakai system JUST IN TIME (JIT)! Ngak cuman Toyota doang yang ngerti.

Here is a proof that Nissan also uses the JIT system like Toyota :

http://www.themanufacturer.com/uk/profi ... n_Controls

Quote "

To many companies, the prospect of operating with a maximum of just 1.5 hours of completed goods between themselves and the customer might seem daunting, but for Johnson Controls Automotive’s Sunderland plant it’s standard practice. The company manufactures seats for the local car giant Nissan – its only customer.

Production starts with the receipt of a transmission from Nissan when the car body reaches a set commitment point. It is only then that the component parts are collected and the seats are synchronously manufactured to the sequence of cars on the customer’s plant. The maximum window is 245 minutes from receipt of data to the seats being fitted into the car. This is how the company justifies its claim to be

the UK’s only true synchronous just-in-time (JIT) manufacturer.

“It’s the way we’ve always manufactured seats,” said Paul Whittingham, production manager. “Other companies who supply Nissan tend to manufacture to stock and just-in-time deliver it. They’ll have one or two days’ finished stock. We manufacture seamlessly from the customer’s order with an hour and a half of finished stock because our customer is only two to three miles down the road and delivery is completely automated.

We work to category three data and look at shifts in advance so we can plan deliveries of raw materials. If you’re working to scheduling data it could be inaccurate. We usually start getting the components together to make a seat within 200 minutes of receipt of the order. It makes us unique in this area and we believe in the UK.”

Pasti ada alasan lain, but buang stok lama is NOT one of them ! How can Nissan recover and grow strong today kalau masih pakai system kuno ? Trust me, they also uses JIT !

Search on the net if U don't believe me.

I mean if Nissan masih kuno, tiap model masih stock banyak inventory, mana bisa dia recover dan sekarang volumenya sudah hampir setengah volume Toyota di dunia. An almost bankrupt company can quickly recover and achieve half the sales amt of Toyota cannot do that without using JIT !

And mala Nissan's return on capital is the highest at 20% ! Higher than Toyota's ! How can a high return on capital and return on equity be achieved if inventory levels are high ?

Give me another reason. Not buang stok lama !

[Sithlord]

Heres another article :

http://www.amicustheunion.org/default.aspx?page=3325

Friday, 6th January 2006

Workers at car component company Unipres (UK) Ltd in Washington Tyneside which supplies body parts to Nissan and Honda are being balloted for industrial action over plans to introduce Saturday working...

Amicus say the result of the ballot for industrial action will be known on 18 January. Unipres supply body parts to Nissan and Honda who operate a "just in time" process so any industrial action taken by the Unipres workers would have a severe impact on Nissan car production.

[conan]

Kalau mau bilang Nissan jual c24 ke kita cuman untuk buang stok lama yang ngak laku, I TIDAK setuju. Cause jaman sekarang saya yakin hampir semua pabrik mobil Jepang pakai system JUST IN TIME (JIT)! Ngak cuman Toyota doang yang ngerti.

Here is a proof that Nissan also uses the JIT system like Toyota :

http://www.themanufacturer.com/uk/profi ... n_Controls

Quote "

To many companies, the prospect of operating with a maximum of just 1.5 hours of completed goods between themselves and the customer might seem daunting, but for Johnson Controls Automotive’s Sunderland plant it’s standard practice. The company manufactures seats for the local car giant Nissan – its only customer.

Production starts with the receipt of a transmission from Nissan when the car body reaches a set commitment point. It is only then that the component parts are collected and the seats are synchronously manufactured to the sequence of cars on the customer’s plant. The maximum window is 245 minutes from receipt of data to the seats being fitted into the car. This is how the company justifies its claim to be

the UK’s only true synchronous just-in-time (JIT) manufacturer.

“It’s the way we’ve always manufactured seats,” said Paul Whittingham, production manager. “Other companies who supply Nissan tend to manufacture to stock and just-in-time deliver it. They’ll have one or two days’ finished stock. We manufacture seamlessly from the customer’s order with an hour and a half of finished stock because our customer is only two to three miles down the road and delivery is completely automated.

We work to category three data and look at shifts in advance so we can plan deliveries of raw materials. If you’re working to scheduling data it could be inaccurate. We usually start getting the components together to make a seat within 200 minutes of receipt of the order. It makes us unique in this area and we believe in the UK.”

Pasti ada alasan lain, but buang stok lama is NOT one of them ! How can Nissan recover and grow strong today kalau masih pakai system kuno ? Trust me, they also uses JIT !

Search on the net if U don't believe me.

I mean if Nissan masih kuno, tiap model masih stock banyak inventory, mana bisa dia recover dan sekarang volumenya sudah hampir setengah volume Toyota di dunia. An almost bankrupt company can quickly recover and achieve half the sales amt of Toyota cannot do that without using JIT !

And mala Nissan's return on capital is the highest at 20% ! Higher than Toyota's ! How can a high return on capital and return on equity be achieved if inventory levels are high ?

Give me another reason. Not buang stok lama !

LOH, coba Anda SENDIRI yang JELASKAN : kenapa C24 yang sudah outdated masih dijual di Asean, sementara Jepang sudah lama menikmati C25??

Apakah penjelasan Anda masih same old same old : kita orang Asean dianggap konsumen kelas kambing, sedangkan orang Jepang = VIP?

Kalau tidak ada stok lama yang menumpuk, berarti bahkan lebih PARAH lagi : C24 yang sudah expired, sampai sekarang MASIH DIPRODUKSI, khusus hanya untuk kita pasar kelas tiga?? Seperti Terrano? (haloo, ini mobil abad LALU lhoo!)

Coba jawab, hei Dark Lord, fans besar Nissan, kenapa mereka pilih kasih? Calon pembeli X-Trail akan dikasih barang FRESH dr Jepang, tapi calon pembeli Serena malah dikasih C24 yang sudah lama expired di Jepang? Kenapa?

Kenapa malah bertanya padaku? Dari dulu juga aku yang menunjukkan bahwa C24 itu akan segera diganti C25, kenapa tidak langsung jual C25 saja? Masak cuma demi penjualan setahun-dua tahun saja, akibatnya mengorbankan semua calon pembeli Serena?

Kenapa malah aku yang ditanya? Coba Anda yang jawab!

[Sithlord]

Heres more :

http://www.sme.org/cgi-bin/get-newslett ... 20010209&3

.....Emil Hassan, senior vice president of North American manufacturing, purchasing, quality, and logistics for Nissan Motor Co. Ltd. , says Nissan's studies found that it could theoretically save up to $3600 per vehicle if all its production were built to order. "Even at $100 a vehicle, it would be worth it," he points out.

An ideal build-to-order system would also allow automakers to promise a nearly custom-built vehicle within a number of days. Kutner, Hassan, and other executives say delivering on time would be more important than whether that time was 15 days or 20 days......

[Sithlord]

Now I ask U, if they treat us like 2nd class citizens, then ngapain tanggung tanggung ? Kenapa X-Trail, Teana etc di jual ? Terrano saja dong.

Tetap my old guess could be valid. U said Tiida volume juga besar, but U got to know that Tiida is a global model sold in many countries. So maybe the Tiida production and supplier capacity is very high !

The Serena, on the other hand, is mainly sold in Japan, with much smaller volumes abroad. So bisa saja supply capacitynya jauh di bawa Tiida.

FYI, Tiida is sold in as far as Australia I think. China juga ada, Kalau c24 / c25 ? Kecil pasarnya.

Come on, we don't work in the Auto industry, so we will never know the real reason.

Anyway, jaman sekarang, siapa yang berani main 1st class / 2nd class gituan pasti hancur !

Tuh Toyota saja sudah ngak berani seperti dulu. Lihat Honda dan Nissan makin kuat, masukin Yaris deh ! Nanti juga nyusul Corolla (Lihat TPT Deprin )

[calvin99]

Mr. Sithlord, apakah anda yakin yang bakal keluar itu X-trail model 06, yang sama persis dengan JDM?

kok kalo saya agak pesimistis yah nissan indo bakal launch X-trail disini barengan sama JDM?

sekarang aja cari spy pics x-trail 06 susah banget (hope the detective will find it soon). mau liat modelnya kaya apa aja susah, apa lagi spek teknisnya. mungkin juga bengkel nissan di jepangnya sendiri juga blom tau kira2 kaya apa wujudnya ini x-trail baru, trus itu orang2 bengkel nissan sini training apaan? apa mereka lagi pelajarin teorinya dulu?hehehe

maksud saya, kalo mau training kan biasanya udah ada dulu produknya (minimal udah ada di luar negeri) cthnya Tiida. kalo mereka training mengenai Tiida, saya masih percaya.

[Sithlord]

Saya juga sceptical sebenernya. Cuman mungkin nanti di tengah tahun, X-trail baru akan tiba, dan orang NMI tinggal di demo gimana cara rakitnya, introduction to new engine etc.

Toh prinsip rakit sama dengan model lama, tinggal kenal bagian barunya.

Toh mesinnya import dari Jepang, bukan di bikin di sini. Jadi NMI tinggal pasang mesin barunya.

But like U, I juga masih ngak 100% percaya juga. Masa gitu cepat ?

[conan]

mau liat modelnya kaya apa aja susah, apa lagi spek teknisnya. mungkin juga bengkel nissan di jepangnya sendiri juga blom tau kira2 kaya apa wujudnya ini x-trail baru, trus itu orang2 bengkel nissan sini training apaan? apa mereka lagi pelajarin teorinya dulu?hehehe

Hehehehe! That's a good one, Mr. Calvin. Kocak abis!
Mungkin mereka akan training bertapa dan membayangkan bentuk new X-Trail itu akan seperti apa! Kekekeke

Tapi, memang ada kemungkinan itu memang new X-Trail, koq. Karena sudah akan segera diluncurkan di Jepang pada tengah tahun ini. Jika NMI ngebut, akhir tahun sudah bisa diluncurkan di Indo. Seperti new Civic yang hanya dalam hitungan bulan sudah akan segera datang...

[Chalupa]

Di film silat, istilah " Cue I Si Can ! "

Keseringan nonton film silat nih rupanya.
Mengambil perumpamaan pun dari film silat.
Sekali kali mbok yah ngambil perumpamaan dari film [cencored], kenapa sih gitu lho.

[hdrw]

I read that anda di bidang industry yang pakai Toluenenya banyak. No wonder U sometimes gampang explode ! Dan volatile sekali ! Been working with too much Toluene ? Hati hati ! And do wear a mask !

he he he ... namanya juga detective kan bawa pistol, masa bawanya pisau lipat doang.

[WP]

Di film silat, istilah " Cue I Si Can ! "

Keseringan nonton film silat nih rupanya.
Mengambil perumpamaan pun dari film silat.
Sekali kali mbok yah ngambil perumpamaan dari film [cencored], kenapa sih gitu lho.

kayak yg situ lakukan di http://www.serayamotor.com/diskusi/view ... 9&start=80 ya??

hehehehe.....

[mpoezz]

Di film silat, istilah " Cue I Si Can ! "

Keseringan nonton film silat nih rupanya.
Mengambil perumpamaan pun dari film silat.
Sekali kali mbok yah ngambil perumpamaan dari film [cencored], kenapa sih gitu lho.

jadi ahhhhhhhhhh auuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhh auuahhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Sithlord]

Sebenernya saya sudah lama ngak nonton seri film silat. Cause jaman sekarang ngak ada lagi yang bagus !

Yang paling bagus dan addictive adalah jaman saya masih SD, tahun early 1980s ! Film silat bikinan Hong Kong, based on novel silat tulisan a guy called Jin Yong kalau ngak salah !

Entah kenapa film dan cerita dia sungguh susah berhenti nonton ! Ada aja ceritanya yang memikat hati ! Seperti " Chu Liu Xiang " dan banyak lagi !

Saya juga tahun lalu saat ke Guang Zhou beli film seri reproduction jaman 1980s juga, judulnya " The Great Wall ", kisah film seri complete tentang kelahiran dan hidup si Raja Chin Shi Huang, kaisar China pertama yang perintahkan bangun the Great Wall of China.

Untuk jaman 1980s, malah saya bilang film dan picture qualitynya lumayan bagus ! Sampai saat ini belum selesai nonton. Panjang ceritanya. Harus cicil pelan pelan !

Tapi untung sekarang ada Indovision. Cause film TV swasta di Indo sekarang hobbynya Cek dan ricek, sinetron terus. Ngak ada yang menarik saya !

Mending Discovery Channel, National Geographic, Golf tournaments etc. !

Juga nanti lain kali mau cari lagi seri tentang Justice Pao, Baharuddin Lopanya China jaman dulu yang sangking tegasnya, saudara Kaisar yang ngak benar saja dia berani hukum mati ! Untung kaisarnya saat itu bijaksana, jadi dia ngak intervensi !

[mpoezz]

saya juga suka liat justice bao itu,emang ngeri tuh hakim ngak pandang bulu kalo salah

[Sithlord]

Bung Herry,

Kalau ngak salah anda saat ini ada di Taiwan, dan istri anda di Indo. Dan I inggat anda ada rencana beli mobil untuk istri tercinta. What a guy !

Now, sebelum anda beli, may I share some additional info with U. Supaya anda bisa ambil keputusaan dengan info yang lebih lengkap.

Although the Yaris is a pretty good and safe car, dan lumayan cocok untuk istri antar anak, ke pasar etc, after seeing some info, I think the Tiida hatchback may spring a big surprise on many people. Istilah the Tiida may become a dark horse this coming June Indonesian Motor Show.

Why ? one. We all know that the Tiida is bigger than the Yaris. Malah let me share with U test drive articles from 2 Hong Kong magazines yang di cantum di website Nissan Hong Kong. Its in Mandarin, tapi I yakin anda ngerti. Yang Tiida juga bisa lihat photo besar dan detail di sana. Its in pdf format, so pls open it. Here are the 2 article review sources :

http://www.nissan.com.hk/eng/model_test_drive.php?id=32

There the Hong Kong review also says that unlike design Nissan pre Ghosn era yang boring, saat ini sudah beda 180 derajat. Malah writernya bilang ini Tiida jelas di design dengan sangat banyak " perhatian dan pemikiran ".

Malah the writer was shocked when sitting in the Tiida interior. Kok rasanya seperti duduk di dalam Cefiro ?!

Dan ada statistic banding interior Tiida ama Camry dan mobil besar lainnya. Kok Camry di compare ? Nah Itu dia ! Masalahnya ini Tiida sangking leganya, data show that selain lebarnya yang kalah ama Camry, dimensi lainnya ngak gitu beda jauh !

Nah ! with all these bigger sizes, U may think, wah ! Harganya pasti jauh lebih mahal banding Yaris.

But take a look at the prices in this Jap Car CBU exporter from Japan :

Harga Yaris di Jepang FOB :

http://www.batfa.com/new_car_toyota_vitz.htm

For the Yaris 1500cc . 2WD . automatic gear version, price = US$ 19,400

I checked the Tiida hatchback price, and my jaw dropped when I see it, pls have a look :

http://www.batfa.com/newcar-nissantiida.htm

For the Nissan Tiida hatchback 2WD price FOB Japan is = US$ 17,500

What ! Kok harga Tiida yang lebih besar dari Yaris bisa lebih murah ?

Perhaps one can say ini permainan harga exporter mobil Jepang ini. Then maybe someone can help me find out their prices in Japan showrooms.

Anyway, mesinnya 22nya 1500 cc, so the tax bracket is the same. both are non-sedans, so another low tax advantage. Apalagi kalau Nissan ternyata CKD ini Tiida, and not from Thailand. Save another 5%.

So my suggestion is if U are thinking of buying a Yaris for yr wife, why don't U wait for just another 4 months, dan lihat harga Tiida saat dia muncul bulan Juni tahun ini.

WHO KNOWS dengan selisih cuman sedikit, U can buy a bigger Tiida for yr wife ! Like I said, I have tried her interior, dan reviewer Hong Kong itu ngak salah. Kok ruang kaki baris 2nya seperti sedan mewah !

Malah article Hong Kong itu juga bilang, bicara ruang kaki Tiida, MPV macam Serena saja kalah !

The more I know abt this Tiida, the more interested I am. Tapi I still wait for AUV. Jika AUV not as good as I think, I may even buy this Tiida, tergantung harga dia banding AUV, or even the new X-Trail.

But a CKD Tiida really have many things in her favour. Low taxes. So I think harganya seharusnya ngak terlalu tinggi.

Somebody pls help me find out, why Batfa is selling the FOB Tiida for less price than Vitz ! And don't think Nissan lagi obral Tiida cause ngak laku. Tiida is one of the top Nissan best sellers in Japan today. And could be because for her size, the price is so good !

[Sithlord]

Somebody once said orang beli mobil hatchback ngak gitu pentingkan ruang kaki baris 2.

Fair enough, BUT now I mau tanya, jika harganya ngak beda jauh, tapi U can get bigger size interior, dengan feature safety sama pula, WHY NOT ?

Istilah bakmi standard harga Rp15,000, dan harga big size yang porsinya say 30% lebih banyak harganya Rp say 17,000. Will U take it ?

Jangan bilang sering pakai sendiri. Kadang juga PASTI ajak teman ramai ramai, atau ajak istri plus mertua / or parents + baby sister. Kan perlu baris 2 dong !

Dan kalau ke mal atau ke puncak dengan mereka, mobilnya baris 2nya enak seperti sedan mewah, kan ada gengsinya sendiri dong !

Seperti Stream saya saat beli. Ada saudara lihat. Dia orangnya jujur, to the point banget. Sampai dia kaget " Ini mobil dari luar lumayan besar, kok dalamnya sempit ! "

Gee, I was a bit malu, dan ngak bisa marah, cause its a FACT !

So nanti jika harga porsi besarnya cuman beda say 15%, I say " EAT IT ! "