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Hi2.. Pengen nanya donk nih..
(Lagi2 nanya! Semoga ga nyusahin & terus dijawab ya :lol: )
Kebetulan selang saluran air intake escudo 97 gw sobek, sekalian pengen ubah aja jadi open air intake..
Nah, yang pengen ditanyain :
1. Bener ga bisa nambah performa?
2. Untung ruginya apa sih?
3. Apa aja yang mesti diperhatikan?
4. merk apa yg bagus dan harga rasional? Trus bengkel mana bisa melayani pengubahan ini?
5. Kira2 abis berapa ya?
Thanx ya nanti mau ngejawab, semoga hidupnya terus beruntungdan diberkati.. Ha3... wkwkwkwk... :D
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maaf newbie nih.. maksudnya filter udara terbuka ya? sori lupa2 inget..

klo yg dimaksud masang filter udara terbuka (sering jg disebut filter udara racing) dgn sok tau gw jawab ngaco :
1. gw pernah pasang sih emang enak tarikannya, terutama tarikan atas krn pasokan udara bs lebih byk.
2. untungnya sudah pasti bs menyediakan udara lebih byk ketika diperlukan, ruginya adalah penyaringan udaranya kurang bagus. biasanya pori2 saringannya lbh lebar dr standart. otomatis intakenya cepet kotor jd kurang cocok buat harian. selain itu klo masangnya ga tepat maka yg kesedot adalah udara panas yg miskin oksigen. kurang oksigen ya pembakaran jg kurang bagus.
3. spt diatas telah disebut. perhatikan pori2 filternya, penempatan filter dibuat sedemikian rupa agar tdk menyedot udara panas mesin, perawatan filter yg rutin. cari filter yg bisa di cuci.
4. merknya byk. apexy, k&n dll.. byk kok bengkel yg bisa pasang terutama bengkel balap.
5. tergantung merk jg lah yau..

mobilnya apa bro? btw gw punya saringan apexy ama adaptornya nganggur.. klo mau jajal silahken.. murah2 aja.. lho koq jd dagang..?? hehehe.. :twisted:
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Wah2.. boleh nih... lumayan second... bisa ngirit.. Escudo taon 97. ngomong2 pipanya apa? Ok ga? harga? maen ratus ribu apa jt-an sih?


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Site bagus nih, kalau2 rekan2 mau tahu cara2 pahe buat tweaking performa mesin.

http://home.brisnet.com.au/~jmiller/suz ... speed.html
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beni wrote:Site bagus nih, kalau2 rekan2 mau tahu cara2 pahe buat tweaking performa mesin.

http://home.brisnet.com.au/~jmiller/suz ... speed.html
ini om beni owner baleno KENCANG yg ngetop di forum sebelah ya?
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1. Bener ga bisa nambah performa?
bener bro terutama tarikan tambah enteng
2. Untung ruginya apa sih?
betul apa bro saptaaji bilang
untungnya : nyedot udara lebih banyak hasilnya tarikan tambah enteng
ruginya : cepet kotor, jadi harus sering di cek dan dibersihin (cucinya ada pembersih khususnya, kalo di cuci pake detergen kainya cepet sobek, dan kalo bisa pas dikeringinnya jangan disemprot pake high pressure compressor kain nya nanti takut robek), dan pasti suara jd lebih berisik (sedikit doang sih, suaranya dihasilkan wkt penyedotan udara. tapi seru kaya pake turbo jadinya hhee....)
<nb>filternya bisa dipake terus life-time, sampe kainnya robek
3. Apa aja yang mesti diperhatikan?
pemasangan dan harus rajin bersihinnya
4. merk apa yg bagus dan harga rasional? Trus bengkel mana bisa melayani pengubahan ini?
Kalo yg terkenal ya K&N (USA), HKS (Jepang), Apex(Jepang)i, <apa> Dragon deh gt (UK), itu doang yg say tau heeeee. tp yg lebih laku di pasaran seh K&N. Harganya mahal diatas 600rban (model kerucut, Filternya doang tanpa pipanya)

ada juga yg merek taiwannya kaya Simota, Huricane, Blue Thunder, No Brand. tp kwalitas jg gak mengecewakan. hasil tarikan sama aja, cuman beda umur pakenya aja. untuk yg kaya gini harga filternya (100-150rb an)

<nb> yg mahal bahan kainya sutra, kalo yg taiwan kain biasa (tp kwalitas tetep OK)
5. Kira2 abis berapa ya?
seperti yg tertera diatas. tambahan: harga pembersihnya 110rban 1 set, terdiri dr cairan pembersih + oli (merek K&N) ini bukan hanya 1x pakai habis tapi bisa sampai 8X

utuk aplikasinya bisa di bengkel2 sport-racng, di toko saya jg bisa bro. tapi Escudo 97 karburator kan ya. kalo mesin karburator gak bisa pake yg model jamur + pipa intake. bisanya pake yg 1 set sama rumahnya (terbuka juga) gw juga jual bro harganya Rp300,- per set (Rumah filter, sama filternya, buatan taiwan, gak usah khawatir soal kwalitas deh bro dijamin) -Sales mode ON hehehehhehhee-

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ini aplikasi kalo di mesin karburator
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tp kl yg gw punya ada rumahnya (tutupan atas- bwh, tengah tetep terbuka)
<<sales mode on lg deh weekekee>>

ini cleaner kit-nya
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ini contoh macam2 filternya
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bisa jg yg diganti elemen dalemnya doang, rumahnya tetep pake yg lama, kaya gini neh
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gw juga bisa ngerubahin filter motor jd model kaya K&N, yang penting ada dudukan-nya (yg item itu)
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Sekian bro! CMIIW m(_ _)m
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Kalo yg terkenal ya K&N (USA), HKS (Jepang), Apex(Jepang)i, <apa> Dragon deh gt (UK), itu doang yg say tau heeeee.

gw bantu deh bos betulin nama merknya: Dragon: King Dragon Made In Italy.
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Ho oh bro betul itu namanya, dulu pernah dpt 1 tuh barangnya kalo gak salah inget warnanya merah /boru terang deh gt, bahannya mirip2 kaya HKS y? dr bahan serua busa sponge (tanpa Bob) :P
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Post by Mike »

Bos Kepin ada jualan apa aja?
tanya2 boleh kan?

Kira2 kalo Av/Xe perlu dikasih Strut Bar gak ya?
puya brg-nya gak?
Pls inpo Merek, Type, Bahan, harga
kalo malu kasih harga, via PM juga boleh....

thx :D
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bukan bos tapi bro hehehehee. jualnya
- setir (momo, sparco, nardi, isotta, fabulous, sama yg stir2 taiwan),
- pedal gas (momo, sparco, isotta, razo, sama pedal2 taiwan)
- strut bar
- busi, kabel buse, koil
- emblem2
- filter (K&N, Apexi, HKS, sama yg taiwan2)
- lampu (cabe, plafon, sign, H4, H1, Dll / Phillip, Hybrid, Alpha, Raybrig)
- helm sparco kadang juga suka ada, balaclava, sarung tangan, seat belt

ya accesoris2 gt deh

ada bro buat Xenia atau Avansa
- Rp 350 rb
- bahan Alluminum alloy (taiwan, tp kwalitasnya bagus kok, terjamin)
- modelnya tiruan dari mere R1/R+ (jepun) kalo gak salah
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Kalau memang niat pakai open air filter, mendingan jangan lupa buatin pnahan panasnya (heat shield).

Salah2 nyedot udara panas, makin boros dan loyo...
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kalo untuk filter model kerucut ada juga tuh bru penahan panasnya kaya gini neh

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itu dibawahnya uda ada breketnya jd tinggal di jepit di karet intakenya.
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Bro Kepin, tiap hari ada di toko ? mau liat2 barang2ny nih... heat shieldnya bisa untuk macam2 merk open air filter ?
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kl gwnya seh gak tiap hari hehehe, tp ada bokap ko........tapi kl mo dtng blh jg janjian nanti gw ngikut ke toko. bisa asal yang modelnya kerucut, bukan yg model jamur yg HKS (bhnnya sponge)
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beni wrote:Site bagus nih, kalau2 rekan2 mau tahu cara2 pahe buat tweaking performa mesin.

http://home.brisnet.com.au/~jmiller/suz ... speed.html
aduh pusink bahasa inggris.. hwe3... :lol:

kepin wrote:ada juga yg merek taiwannya kaya Simota, Huricane, Blue Thunder, No Brand. tp kwalitas jg gak mengecewakan. hasil tarikan sama aja, cuman beda umur pakenya aja. untuk yg kaya gini harga filternya (100-150rb an)
Biasa berapa lama ya?

Hmmm.. Bisa maen2 nih ke tokonya..
Boleh nih janjian, enaknya masuk lewat pintu mana ya biar deket ke tokonya?
kepin wrote:kalo untuk filter model kerucut ada juga tuh bru penahan panasnya kaya gini neh )
ini karbu?
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kepin wrote:kl gwnya seh gak tiap hari hehehe, tp ada bokap ko........tapi kl mo dtng blh jg janjian nanti gw ngikut ke toko. bisa asal yang modelnya kerucut, bukan yg model jamur yg HKS (bhnnya sponge)
gw jg dah janji maen2 ketoko elo khan boss.. eh.. bro... :p
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BUat yang penasaran dengan kemampuan filter udara aftermarket:
http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/

Semoga bisa jadi bahan pertimbangan.
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Biasa berapa lama ya?

Hmmm.. Bisa maen2 nih ke tokonya..
Boleh nih janjian, enaknya masuk lewat pintu mana ya biar deket ke tokonya?
lama seh bisa taunan, gw juga make (yg elementnya doang, sampe skrng gak rusak2)

Silakan bro main2, enaknya masuk dari gerbang jalan industri, abis masuk gerbang langsung belok kiri, terus gang pertama belok kanan, lurus terus deh sampe mentok tokonya pas di ujung (tusuk sate)
ini karbu?
bukan bro itu untuk filter yg model kerucut, yang pake intake lg, biasanya seh di mobil injection.
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gw jg dah janji maen2 ketoko elo khan boss.. eh.. bro... :p
kapan bro mo maennya, nanti gw ngikut ke toko
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Bro Kepin, bisa kasitau no. HP mu ? Kita sms-an kalo aku udah mau nyampai ke tokomu... no. ku 08886136789, namaku Torry (Jeskoneng)
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Bro Kepin, bisa kasitau no. HP mu ? Kita sms-an kalo aku udah mau nyampai ke tokomu... no. ku 08886136789, namaku Torry (Jeskoneng)
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kepin wrote:
gw jg dah janji maen2 ketoko elo khan boss.. eh.. bro... :p
kapan bro mo maennya, nanti gw ngikut ke toko
blom tau jg nih.. liat waktunya dulu deh...
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OK2 sip bro atur aja waktunya
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Wah standar motor udah terkenal juga nih.. kayaknya sering masuk otomotif... Minta bikin forum sendiri donk bro kepin... kayak cihampelas.. hehehe.... :e-dance:

Bro kalo budget 500rb cukup ga nih buat kesana & gonta-ganti.. Maunya sih filter udara ama kabel busi.. tapi yang kabel busi nambahin performa ga ya?
tetep escudo '97 karburator...