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Sepertinya di SM jarang ngebahas world rally macam WRC ato Paris-Dakar yach? Ramenya cuman di F1 ato grand Prix. Apa pada ga tertarik nih?
Oya, denger-denger Paris-Dakar 2008 mo dibatalin, padahal selain WRC, saya juga suka paris-dakar tuh...
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Hehe.. rally Paris-Dakar bukan mo dibatalin bro, tapi emang udah dibatalin, seharusnya kan mulai tanggal 5 kemarin..
Gue juga demen rally kok, terutama WRC, pengen liat nih kiprahnya SX4 yang mulai turun tahun ini..
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paris dakar, demen, sayang di batalkan, mungkin gara2 kasus pembunuhan sekeluarga pelancong/turis itu ya? kemarin pas nungguin di tv, eh ternyata highlight yg 2007.

WRC dement bgt, idem ama bung flexi, mau nungguin kiprah SX4 di WRC, yg katanya pake basis mesin J20A yg dipake ama juga SGV di indo

Mudah2an aku bisa selalu nonton highlights nya di tv

Yuk, bahas WRC aja...
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kalo liat di detik.com memang karena turis perancis yang dibunuh teroris itu... ya menurut gue sih kalo memang penyelenggara nggak bisa menjamin keamanan, ya lebih baik dibatalin. gue cuma mikir kasihan tim2 besar yang udah nyiapin mobil, sponsor, dsb..

btw, kuat juga ya mesin j20a itu dimodifikasi sampe 300 hp.. kirain cuma 4g63-nya mitsubishi yang badak..
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320 bhp @ 4000 rpm, 590nm @ 3500 rpm, Turbocharged, in-line 4, DOHC, 16-valve 5 speed M/T AWD, weight 1230kg ..

Pasti sangar kalo di liat dari PWR nya...tinggal durability nya aja harus di buktikan
Mudah2an sukses di WRC, biar parts aftermarketnya untuk J20A byk beredar di indo..
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lengkap bener infonya hehehe... tapi kalo liat prestasi tahun lalu masih kurang meyakinkan..
mudah2an aja tahun ini digarap lebih serius.
kalo liat wrc dulu2, hyundai keok, pabrikan non jepang yang sempet sukses cuma toyota sama mitsubishi..
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^^^
tul...
herannya pabrikan yg sukses di arena sport, jualannya malah memble (setidaknya di negara kita dilihat dari resale value-nya...).
Pabrikan asia yg berjaya paling cuman mitsu ma subaru ajah...
Trus gimana nih, Om Gronholm jadi pensiun yach? Tapi gpp ding, Sebastian Loeb juga OK punya kok, masih muda lagi...
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masa sih, jadi juara JWRC 2007 pake swift dikelas super1600 pada tahun 2007 kemarin, dibilang kurang meyakinkan. ini Gelar ke dua suzuki setelah juara juga tahun 2004 lho..he.he.he.h.

tapi di kelas WRC ini , suzuki bener2 baru...harus ditunggu pembuktian dari suzy di WRC...
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oo kalo di kelas 1600 sih udah oke, maksud gue di kelas wrc. tahun 2007 kemarin kan sx4 wrc sempet turun di beberapa seri buat uji coba.. yah finish sih, cuma urutannya itu lho, kalo pabrikan (ford, subaru, & citroen) kan manteng di 10 besar.. nah sx4 ini urutannya nyampur2 ama privateer hehe..

tapi tahun ini gue dukung suzuki deh, gardemeister ama andersson..
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kalo di lomba Race to the sky, alias lomba mendaki gunung, suzuki gak terkalhkan 5 taon berturut2 (cmiiw) . pake Grand Vitara 2.7 (power hampir 1000 bhp), pilot nya Nobuhiro Tajima, Direktur Suzuki divisi suzukisport sekarang. Dibawah tangan tajima, kayaknya suzuki dah mulai menunjukkan taringnya di arena balap,
mungkin harus diimbangin di divisi sales dan marketing juga kali ya..
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kalo di WRC , itu kalo gak salah masih uji coba dengan turun di bbrp seri...aku dukung dah team suzuki. (sejak toyota gak ikut WRC jd agak males nonton WRC). tp sekarang jadi semangat lagi..he.he.eeh

Taon 2008 suzy gak turun JWRC ya? sepertinya fokus ke WRC (cmiiw)
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bener bro. mudah2an dengan ikutan wrc ini bisa ngerubah image suzuki, terutama di indonesia yang tadinya identik dengan produsen mobil2 kecil & mobil murah, jadi produsen yang bikin produk2 berkualitas & berteknologi, bisa sejajarlah sama toyota & honda..

yang di event race to the sky itu vitara udah ganti tampang kan, ceper abis & banyak sayapnya hehe..
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body nya dari carbon semua, serem dah spek nya...

seri WRC pertama masih lama tgl 23 Jan 07 - montecarlo...gak sabar...he.he.h.e
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imsus2c wrote:^^^
tul...
herannya pabrikan yg sukses di arena sport, jualannya malah memble (setidaknya di negara kita dilihat dari resale value-nya...).
Pabrikan asia yg berjaya paling cuman mitsu ma subaru ajah...
Trus gimana nih, Om Gronholm jadi pensiun yach? Tapi gpp ding, Sebastian Loeb juga OK punya kok, masih muda lagi...
Gronholm pensiun, gw yg gantiin ... :) Nih mobilnya sdh siap
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^^^
sipp dah...eh jangan2 cuman boilnya doank yg siap,

Btw, pernah perhaiin ga, knapa driver/pembalap2 hebat event dunia banyak yg berasal dari Perancis dan skandinavia (Finlandia & Swedia), contohnya: Loeb, Peterhansel, Elena, Makkinnen, Hakkinen, Kankunen, Raikonen, Gronholm, Ekstrom,...
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mungkin di negara2 tsb ada sekolah balap/rally disana...hi...hi...hi..
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wah...disini pun banyak sekolah rally & motoGP...gratis lagi, langsung praktek tanpa guru/instruktur di jalan raya dan tol...hehehe..... :lol:
Toh meskipun gitu, ga ada pembalap kita yg ngetop didunia. Mungkin gara2 lombanya pake aturan & safety yach 8) ?
Coba kalo lombanya tanpa aturan...pasti pembalap kita ngacir deh... :glodak:
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ada yang tau gak ya, sponsor buat supply rims/pelek ke tim pabrikan WRC merek apa ya?
kalo aku peratiin stiker2 di mobil wrc, koq gak ada stiker sponsor pelek?
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kayanya velg-nya enkei bro.. hehe.. nebak doang gue..
tapi kalo nggak salah emang merk velg rally yang ngetop enkei kan..
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^^^
Kalo di WRC, yg velg warna putih, kadang ada yg bertuliskan "SPARCO", tapi ga semua sih...
Kalo bannya, umumnya pake BFGoodrich, ada juga yg Michelin
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setelah nyari2 referensi, hampir semua tim sepertinya memakai pelek merek OZ Racing , type Superturismo WRC..cmiiw
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ah itu dia maksud gue tadi, inget oz-nya doang hehehe..
bannya ada juga yang pirelli, yang jelas nggak ada yang make ban merk swallow..
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Kemaren baca autobild halaman blakang yg ngebahas sport, dakar rally 2008 (yg akhirnya batal) ttg 2 tim kuat; VW Touareg Race 2 dan Mitsubishi Pajero Montero. Diakhir artikel, ada 2 data teknis simple, yg menyebutkan kalo 2 SUV ini pake chassis/body dengan system monocoque. Saya jd bingung, soalnya menurut pendapat umum, sistem monokok ni ga setangguh "ladder on frame" apalagi jika diterapkan di SUV dan dipake di medan berat. Nha ini jagoan2 SUV yg dipake di rally malah pake system monokok. Knapa ya? Saya baca di spek bannya juga ga "sebesar" perkiraan saya, "cuman" pake 235/85R16. Bannya sih sama2 pake BFGoodrich, si spesialis ban rally.
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Mbl2 paris dakar yg keren dongkraknya tuh, nempel di chasis pake sistem hidrolik, pencet tmbol, ngangkat tuh boil
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info WRC(dikutip dari otomotif) :
mulai tahun ini 4 tim pabrikan yg ikut kejuaran WRC(Ford,citroen,Subaru,Suzuki) wajib memakai nomor urut start di mobil masing2 dan wajib mengikuti seluruh seri. Nomor Start tsb adalah :
S. Loeb - Citroen 1
D. Sordo - Citroen 2
M.Hirvonen - Ford 3
M.Latvala - Ford 4
P.Solberg - Subaru 5
C. Atkinson -Subaru 6
T.Gardemeister- Suzuki 11
(yg lain mhn di tambahi ya)
jadinya, dengan melihat nomor yg tertera di mobil , kita bisa tau siapa yg sedang beraksi.