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Knapa Pug/peugeot ga ikutan lagi yach? Ato karena sudah diwakilin ma sodara tirinya (citroen)? Oya, knapa skrg sedan buat rally pakenya model "hatchback"? Jarang ato ga ada yg pake full size sedan (3 boxes)?
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Sebetulnya setau gue pabrikan yang ikutan rally ini kan tujuannya untuk promosi. Supaya orang2 liat bahwa produknya tangguh, powerwul, dsb & ujung2nya beli. Peugeot kalo nggak salah, merasa promosi lewat rally ini nggak efektif, & mungkin juga karena budget promosinya terbatas, jadi sama manajemen-nya diputuskan stop. Toyota juga gitu, mereka lebih milih cabut dari rally & masuk ke F1 biar image-nya lebih ngangkat.. sayang banget sih, event dunia tapi pabrikan yang ikut cuma 4..
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Sepertinya WRC sbg ajang promosi penjualan mobil msh kalah dibanding F1, IMHO...
Mungkin yg berhasil promo dari ajang WRC cuma Mitsu. Citra Mitsu keangkat dari sini.
Orang bilang Evo (meskipun itu kadang hanya Lancer), yg kebayang pasti WRC.
Ford, ga lewat WRC pun udh menguasai market US.

Dari ajang F1, Honda berhasil punya image, dgn Mc Laren dulunya yg merajalela.
Klo Toyota dimulai darimana ya image-nya terbentuk? Apa pabrik mobil tertua di Jepang, jadi marketnya udh exis duluan?

Btw, ada yg punya pics 4 mobil kontestan yg mewakili pabrikan u/ WRC 2008 ini? Diattach dong, please.....
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Hikoza wrote:Btw, ada yg punya pics 4 mobil kontestan yg mewakili pabrikan u/ WRC 2008 ini? Diattach dong, please.....
Browse aja di http://www.wrc.com/ bro...
Komplit disana, malah ada video clipnya...
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Setelah BFGoodrich merajai pabrikan ban di ajang rally, sekarang Pirelli mo coba unjuk gigi (unjuk ban kali ya...) di WRC2008 dengan tim Subaru
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Klo Toyota dimulai darimana ya image-nya terbentuk? Apa pabrik mobil tertua di Jepang, jadi marketnya udh exis duluan?
Toyota sering ikut balap koq. Di offroad ada Land Cruiser, di rally ada Celica, di kelas GT juga ada (ada koq di game GrandTourismo). Coba deh liat2 referensi di game balap. Tapi pernah baca, mobil Toyota yg awal2 laku di luar Jepang (Amrik), adalah Land Cruiser. Bahkan sampe sekarang masih aktif dipake buat offroad di Indo.
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flexiblebil wrote:l
kalo liat wrc dulu2, hyundai keok, pabrikan non jepang yang sempet sukses cuma toyota sama mitsubishi..
jangan lupain Subaru dunk....
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betul pak...subaru juga terkenal di kalangan rally, bahkan image orang kalo denger subaru tu identik dengan rally. Denger2 selain Suzuki, Honda juga mo masuk di kancah rally tuh....
Bahkan di WRC...sepertinya Toyota malah kalah pamor ma Subaru.
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Oya, knapa skrg sedan buat rally pakenya model "hatchback"? Jarang ato ga ada yg pake full size sedan (3 boxes)?
Dulu jg banyak koq yg pake mobil hatchback. Pernah liat mobil Peugeot 205 atau Lancia Delta HF Integrale di game Collin McRae ga?

Peugeot 205 T16nya Ari Vatanen, yg menang di RAC Rally 1984 - Group B
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wah...betul juga pak! Kalo saya perhatikan lagi, boil full size sedan (3 boxes) malah umumnya di rally lokal/regional macam APRC
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Sebetulnya kembali lagi ke region mana rally diselenggarakan. Biasanya tiap region memiliki mobil-mobil yang sudah didaftar boleh utk rally (istilahnya homologasi kalu ga salah). Kebetulan yg beredar di Asia banyak bertipe sedan. Lain dgn Eropa, dimana jalannya sempit-sempit menyebabkan mobil yang banyak beredar model hatchback. Sehingga mobil yg utk rally pun memakai model hatchback. Disamping itu melihat juga medan yg digunakan. Tidak bijaksana memaksakan mobil berbody bongsor seperti Evo utk balapan di jalan2 pedesaan di Prancis atau Italy. Wajar bila Mitsubishi ga pernah keliatan lagi di daftar juara dunia WRC.
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blm tentu, bisa aja ini yg turun:
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Yg ini khan masih baru boss.. Samimawon dgn Subaru yg ikutan ngeluarin WRX versi hatchback.
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wah...seri2 awal WRC dah dimulai nih... pabrikan2 yg naik podium masih muka lama, Ford dan Citroen. Sayang, saya blom pernah lihat Citroen (model dgn platform yg dipake di WRC) disini...penasaran ajah... Kalo yg Fordnya sih pernah lihat
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Ada ya 4B11T (Evo X) yg hatchback? Baru liat Evo kyk gini.....(mode: iklan minuman suplemen).... :mrgreen:
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ATPM Citroen di Indonesia emank udah lama tutup. Mobil terakhir yg dijual disini kalu gasalah Citroen CX (CMIIW). Yg bentuknya rada2 aneh, tapi suspensinya konon salah satu yg paling nyaman.

Tp gossipnya mereka udah ada rencana balik kemari lagi koq. Mungkin kalu mau beli bisa aja lewat IU biasa.
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sepertinya Loeb bakalan berjaya lagi nih............
Btw, pereli2 indonesia sepertinya akhir2 (kalo saya lihat di TV/koran, tim IRT) ini mulai "terlihat" lagi di event internasional nih...(contoh APRC seri swedia)
http://indonesiarallyteam.com/index.php
http://www.antara.co.id/arc/2008/2/11/s ... li-swedia/
http://www.fia.com/sport/Championships/ ... ction.html

Siapa tahu kalo berprestasi bisa naik kelas ke WRC

Sayang...sepertinya kalah "glamour" sama pembalap/event lain macam ananda/moreno...yg berita dan modalnya jor-joran tapi prestasinya masih loyo......
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Yaa.. ntar orang juga liat. Mana yg berprestasi, mana yg omdo. Liat aja tuh, WSBK aja ga jadi tampil. Udah saatnya rezim Soeharto di autosport direformasi juga.
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Setuju pak...
Omong2....kemana nih si Mitsu? lama ga nongol lagi di WRC, kalah ma Subaru dan skrg malah Suzuki ikutan disana...
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Tauk tuh. Gara2 ngandelin mobil bongsor melulu. Ga mau bikin mobil yg kecilan. Jadinya kalah trus..
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imsus2c wrote:Setuju pak...
Omong2....kemana nih si Mitsu? lama ga nongol lagi di WRC, kalah ma Subaru dan skrg malah Suzuki ikutan disana...
Kayanya Suzuki lumayan juga dng Swift & SX-4 nya......
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btw,
Paris Dakar benar2 nggak mungkin diadakan lagi ya?
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tahun ini rute-nya digeser karena masalah keamanan, siapa tahu kalo dah kondusif ya jalan lagi. kalo ga salah sekarang rutenya di Eropa. Yg lagi seru2nya ni Touareg mo trus coba matahin dominasi Pajero/Montero di ajang ginian.
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gw malah lbh seringnya perhatiin kelas truck nya om.... Kamaz atau Tatra.... heheheh
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Trus terang balapan ini sangat menantang bagi pereli, namun bagi penonton ga banget. Maklum jarak tempuhnya terlalu panjang, lalu medannya cenderung monoton, dan tentunya sulit utk diambil gambarnya. Gamenya aja beberapa kali muncul, tapi terbukti jarang tereksploitasi karena jarang peminat. Jauh banget dibandingkan dgn WRC atau balap jenis lainnya.

Namun itu semua lebih karena faktor sulitnya mengambil gambar yang bagus. Pengambilan lewat helikopter, tentu sangat mahal mengingat lamanya lomba. Akibatnya karena tak begitu banyak publikasi, mengakibatkan kurang dikenal orang, baik peserta maupun kendaraannya. Yg orang tau hanya, sekumpulan orang kurang waras yg senang jalan-jalan di gurun pasir. Seandainya publikasi, khususnya di Indonesia, tentunya tanggapannya akan lain.
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