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Takumi wrote:Gue barusan call sama temen gue yang kerja di auto blind..
dia barusan uji coba Lancer baru.. emang mesinya sama.. body lift doank.. cuman yang patut di curigain koq butuh oktan minimum 95.. ,alias minimum pertamax lah ..
Oktan 95? Emang Lancer perlu oktan setinggi itu? Lha wong di Amrik saja di gas stations oktan yg paling tinggi cuma 92. Menurut gue bensin berkadar oktan 92 saja itu udah sangat bagus. Sebenarnya mobil-mobil keluaran baru itu diberi bensin berkadar oktan dibawah 92 pun sebenarnya gak apa-apa, UNLESS memang tertulis di buku manualnya.
Coba deh dibaca nasehat-nasehat di bawah ini yg di berikan oleh perusahaan "Triple A" dan "Consumer Reports Magazine" mengenai pemakaian bensin beroktan tinggi pada mobil-mobil keluaran baru. Penting untuk mengetahui hal ini untuk menghindari pengeluaran unnecessary costs. By the way, utk para pengunjung yg tidak pernah mendengar nama AAA (triple A) maupun Consumer Reports Magazine, mereka ini adalah badan-badan yg sangat credible di Amerika yg berfungsi untuk melindungi consumers melalui surveys, tips, advices, roadside assistance (AAA) dan service-service lainnya.
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Wednesday, 03/05/03
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pinch pennies at pump: Most vehicles don't need expensive high-octane fuel
By SAMEH FAHMY
Staff Writer
When you adjust for inflation, the average price of a gallon of gas was about $2.59 in 1980, so today's $1.50-plus a gallon isn't quite that bad, at least by comparison.
That said, you're probably looking for ways to save a few bucks at the pump, and if you typically use high-octane or premium fuel, that's a good place to look.
Octane explained
Octane ratings measure the ability of a gasoline to resist engine knock, which occurs when gas ignites prematurely, creating a pinging or rattling sound. The higher the octane, the less likely the fuel is to cause knocking.
The Federal Trade Commission and local mechanics recommend using the octane listed in your vehicle's owner's manual. A higher-than-recommended octane gas will offer no benefit, they say, and is simply a waste of money.
Whether you can use a lower-than-recommended octane is a bit trickier.
Consumer Reports spokesman Douglas Love points out that his magazine includes a vehicle's recommended octane rating when they review it, and often the manufacturers later call and complain, saying that the vehicle doesn't really need the high-octane gas. Using a higher-octane gas allows manufacturers to tune engines in a way that allows them to add slightly more horsepower, but ''there are a lot of vehicles out there that will run perfectly well on a regular or mid-grade fuel,'' Love says.
Jim Nelson, who owns Jus' Maintainin' Inc. in Hendersonville, says you should use the lowest octane possible that does not cause your engine to knock, ping or rattle. If your car makes out-of-the ordinary engine noises when you're using cheaper gas, though, switch to a higher octane or risk seriously damaging your engine, he cautions.
Which brand is best?
A Consumer Reports' preliminary study on which brand of gas will give you the best mileage found barely measurable differences, Love says. A gallon of gas from a Shell station and an Exxon station could actually be from the same refinery. The difference between the two is the additives and engine detergents they include.
''The similarities are a lot more than the differences,'' says Nelson Trabue, who owns Import Auto Maintenance in Nashville. ''What's important is that you get gas that's not contaminated with water or other things.''
To minimize that risk, Trabue suggests using the same gas station for consistency and preferably one that sells a large volume so that you're less likely to get gas that's been sitting in a storage tank for too long.
Fewer fill-ups
Here are some tips from AAA to get better gas mileage:
• Slow down: By obeying posted speed limits, you can reduce your fuel consumption by 10%-20% or more.
• Be consistent: If you have cruise control, use it.
• Lighten up: Clean out your trunk and back seat every once in awhile.
• Enjoy the breeze: Use wind power to cool down instead of the air conditioning.
• Maintenance is key: Keep your tires properly inflated; check your air filter; clean your spark plugs and get an annual tune-up, especially if your car is older.
Think cars run better on premium gas? It’s a myth
Gannett News Service
WASHINGTON  If you’re one of those consumers who puts a premium on high-quality gasoline, you might be getting hosed.
Premium blends of gasoline guarantee higher octane ratings. But there is an extra cost for the higher energy content, and experts say in most cases it’s not worth it.
Some motorists buy better blends under the belief that better gas will deliver better performance. Oil companies have advertised that premium blends are better on the engine.
Experts say these are two of the most common myths about premium gasoline. And one way to save money at the pump is to switch to a lower grade.
“Unless it specifically says it is required in your owners’ manual, you don’t need it,†said Jim Rink, spokesman for AAA Michigan.
Some models have high-performance engines specifically designed for high-octane fuels, typically luxury models or sports cars.
But even these cars can often run on regular gasoline, with just a marginal loss of performance.
The difference between grades of gasoline is posted on the pump.
The rule of thumb to knowing whether you are not using high enough octane is listening to your engine. If it knocks or pings while it is running, you need to switch to a higher grade of gas.
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For Immediate Release
February 21, 2003
Contact: Dave Carlson
AAA: BUY THE RIGHT GAS TO SAVE AT THE PUMP
BOISE - Why spend $150 more per year for gasoline you don’t need? Yet motorists who buy premium grade fuel at 20 cents more a gallon for a car that simply needs regular could be doing just that if they drive 15,000 miles a year in a car that gets 20 miles per gallon, according to Idaho’s AAA.
“Many motorists mistakenly assume they’re getting more power, improving fuel economy or doing something nice for their cars when they buy premium grade fuel,†says AAA Idaho Public and Government Affairs Director Dave Carlson. “The truth is, unless your car requires a higher octane fuel, you’re simply shelling out more money than you need to.â€Â
Octane ratings are a measure of how quickly gasoline combusts in your engine. Premium grade fuels contain additives that slow the combustion of the air-fuel mixture in your engine, to prevent knocking or pre-ignition. But the Federal Trade Commission says auto manufacturers recommend 87-octane fuel for most new cars, the same grade labeled as regular throughout most of the US.
If the manufacturer recommends premium fuel, it should always be used, even if a lesser grade fuel does not cause knocking. Modern engines requiring premium fuel are equipped with electronic knock sensors for protection in case the wrong grade of fuel is used. An electronic signal to the engine management computer retards the spark timing and stops the knock.
In addition to some high performance vehicles, some older cars require higher octane fuel due to the accumulation of deposits in the combustion chamber. But malfunctioning exhaust gas recirculation systems, overheating and improper timing should be investigated before covering up the problem with more expensive fuel.
Bottom line, AAA says, is don’t pay for gas you don’t need. Check your owner’s manual for the manufacturer’s recommendations. If you have doubts about the grade of fuel you need, consult a AAA Approved Auto Repair technician or other qualified source.
humm ternyata mitsubishi itu pailit.. pedahal teknologi MIVEC nya lumayan bagus kan yah? kenapa ga diturunin ke produk massal maksudnya kaya vvt-i nya toyota, yang dipake keseluruh kelas.. trus klo dah diturunin, mitsu nge research lagi hehehe gampang banget yah gua ngomongnya? hehehe pedahal bikin tech mesin kan susah..
bunbun, kamu liat aja manualnya, disana tertulisnya itu pake bensin beroktan berapa. sebenarnya mayoritas mobil baru (yg non-luxury class) sih rata-rata cuma cukup diharuskan untuk pake minimal regular gasoline yg beroktan 87.
Kalau sudah mau terasa ada hentakan, ganti dgn oktan yg lebih tinggi sedikit, misalnya yg mid-grade beroktan 89, kalo "hentakannya" sudah tidak ada, yah udah, cukup saja pake bensin beroktan 89, gak usah sampe 92 ato bahkan diatas itu karena sebenarnya tidak akan memberikan benefit yg terlalu banyak, yg ada malah pemborosan pengeluaran uang untuk biaya yg tidak necessary. Yah, gue sih sendiri ngikutin sarannya triple A tsb., karena gue percaya ama kredibilitas mereka sbg auto expert, mereka gak mungkin memberikan advice yg gak benar, karena mereka juga harus menjaga reputasi mereka.
menurut manual, equivalen ama pertamax. hehehe, tapi kalo lagi darurat yaa bandel pake premium dengan konsekuensi, jalannya alon-alon asal kelakon alias naiknya laju kendaraan bertahap
Gue barusan call sama temen gue yang kerja di auto blind..
dia barusan uji coba Lancer baru.. emang mesinya sama.. body lift doank.. cuman yang patut di curigain koq butuh oktan minimum 95.. ,alias minimum pertamax lah ..
pas di coba pake vericom hasilnya emang mengejut kan
Lancer 1600cc SOHC GLXi
0-400 = 16.25
di 138kmph gigi 3 akhir
9.18 0-100kmph
spec standar full
lumayan tuh buat 1600 bisa nempel Lancer GTi yang lama.. buat di sentul bisa nyentuh 17 detik lah..
gue lagi tanya2in temen gue suruh nanya versi SEI yang 1800cc ada gak manual trus ada gak mobil nya untuk di test lagi , bisa lebih gahar..
besok deh potonya kalo gue ke sentul soalnya temen gue mo bawa tuh mobil.. tar gue poto2 hehe..
New Lancer 2004 tersedia dalam 2 varian (dikutip dari iklannya) :
- GLXi 1.8 MPI ( Manual Trans 5 Speed )
- SEi - CVT 1.8 MPI Invesc-III ( CVT 6 Speed )
DigitALL wrote:Setuju sama bung Edward.
Dari hampir seluruh sektor, COROLLA ALTIS unggul diantara lawan2nya. Dan harganya emang paling mahal ! Mahal SEKALI ... Mendekati 300 juta untuk tipe G dengan transmisi Automatic J-Gate.
Oya, untuk kelengkapan fitur, Lynx RS juga paling lengkap. Bahkan boleh dikatakan lengkap sekali. Dan asiknya dengan harga yang juga murah. Fasilitasnya : Sun Roof, Rear Spoiler, Strut Bar, Jok Racing, Steer Racing, Side Skirt Racing, dll.
Yup di OTOCAR juga Altis terbaik, tenaga, manuver, kenyamanan paling bagus. Civic menang handling di tikungan, Lynx RS meskipun kapasitasnya paling gedhe namun tenaganya kurang (apa akibat transmisinya?) namun torsinya gedhe.
altis soal manuver gue bilang paling parah.. soalnya dia gak pake suspensi independen..
kalo , linx RS payah mobil di buat sport untuk pasaran anak muda.. cuman di keluarin MATIC.. mati ajah gak bakal laku.. sama kaya mazda 323 yang baru *gue lupa namanya* .. 2000cc dohc cuman matic!.. ancur di pasaran..
mitsu gak ngeluarin mivec karena mereka lebih fokus buat mesin turbo.. kaya di luar negri evo, gitu makanya mivec stuck same situ ajah perkembanganya.. dan juga mitsu katanya lagi di landa krisis..
soal bensin temen gue di Us cerita koq.. di sono jual oktanya 92/93/94 ...
di indo oktanya premium 89.. pertamax 94, plus 95.. , dan bakal keluar tar oktan 98.. tapi harganya lebih 3500 per liter..
ngaruh banget koq oktan.. karena daya ledaknya lebih tinggi , gue pake pertamax trus pake plus kerasa banget bedanya.. 200nya lebih cepet..
Disini Amrik, bensin beroktan paling tinggi namanya UNLEADED PLUS (aka Premium), itu kadar oktannya 92.
Tidak ada yg beroktan 94. Disini Amerika bensin berkadar oktan paling tinggi itu cuma 92 (dan kadar oktannya ini jelas-jelas ditempel di samping setiap gas pump di seluruh Amerika sehingga seluruh pengendara mobil/motor tau kadar oktan bensin yg tersedia di gas pumps). Boleh silakan di-confirm dgn anggota SerayaMotor lainnya yg menetap di Amerika.
Hanya 4 jenis bahan bakar yg dijual di gas pumps di Amerika, tipe Diesel, Regular (beroktan 87), Mid-grade (beroktan 89), dan Premium Unleaded Plus (beroktan 92). Mitsubishi Lancer juga ada berkeliaran disini Amrik walaupun tidak banyak (karena sebenarnya Mitsubishi kurang populer di Amerika karena model-model tahun sebelumnya itu sering bermasalah dan resale valuenya sangat anjlok). Saya agak sangsi sebuah mobil seperti Mitsubishi Lancer masa membutuhkan sampai bensin minimal beroktan diatas 95, wong Lamborghini dan Ferrari di Amerika sini saja cuma perlu bensin Unleaded Plus yg beroktan 92 kok. Apa mungkin performance Mitsubishi Lancer begitu dahsyat sehingga memerlukan bensin berkadar oktan yg begitu tinggi yg bahkan melebihi requirementnya bensin yg diperlukan oleh sebuah supercar seperti Ferrari?
No offense lho yah mas Takumi, saya bukannya tidak percaya sama mas, cuma saya agak meragukan statement dari temannya mas Takumi tsb yg mengatakan Lancer memerlukan minimal bensin beroktan 95 ke-atas.
Yup di OTOCAR juga Altis terbaik, tenaga, manuver, kenyamanan paling bagus. Civic menang handling di tikungan, Lynx RS meskipun kapasitasnya paling gedhe namun tenaganya kurang (apa akibat transmisinya?) namun torsinya gedhe.
Emang dari berbagai review, mengatakan kalo ALTIS itu paling baik di antara rival2nya.
Civic biasanya di urutan kedua, setelah ALTIS.
Lynx RS emang memiliki torsi yang besar, karena kapasitasnya 2000cc. Tapi tarikannya terasa kurang karena terhambat oleh transmisi Otomatisnya. Berbagai review mengeluhkan transmisi otomatisnya.
pedahal bikin tech mesin kan susah..
