Gimana Bikin Mesin Diesel Ga Brisik...??

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Gimana Bikin Mesin Diesel Ga Brisik...??

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Mesin diesel (konvensional) identik dengan getaran yang keras n suara yang brisik. Nah gmn caranya supaya suara mesin tuh ga brisik2 bgt? Trus gmn caranya agar getaran mesin bs dikurangi? Thanks.......................................... :ngacir:
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Kalo gak salah ada di thread sebelah, dimana Om Turboman sarankan campur sedikit dgn Marvel Mistery Oil (bisa cari ke Acehardware) atau pake oli 2 tak smokeless, takaran kira2 100 ml utk 40 liter solar. Ini akan melumasi injector & plunger sehingga mengurangi suara berisik mesin diesel - cmiiw.

Kalo mesin udah lama coba bantu dgn purging, cek filter solar kalo udah kotor ganti elemennya. Dan kualitas bbm juga menentukan, semakin busuk mutu solarnya biasanya semakin parah brisiknya - cmiiw juga.

Mungkin Om Turboman bisa tambahin secara dia yg temuin cara campurin oli ke solar utk pelumas plunger diesel engine.
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Bro Banyak triknya di sini,bisa cari lewat fasilitas search..tapi kalau para ahli mau nerangin lagi...jadi nggak pakai nyari.
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diesel conventional? klo mesinnya udah dari sananya kali bro, klo sekedar pk oli ini itu, itu pun ga terlalu significant merubah bising dan getaran.

pasangin peredam aja yg banyak bro, di pintu, di plafon, di dak lantai, kap mesin.
geteran mesin, coba aja ganti pake engine mounting yg mantep. tp susah deh..udah dari sananya....
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disel sini primitif semua, kijang disel aja bunyinya ga keru2an. teknologi disel taun 70an.asep pada item lagi.
coba pasang predam
kalo masih kurang, setel musik agak keras
kalo masih kurang senyap, sambil ngobrol biar ga krasa.
kalo masih jg brisik, matiin mesin aja.haha
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iya ni sama,,
pengen ngurangin berisik di mobil kijang diesel gw jg,,
katanya bisa dengan cara nyetel pompa injektornya yha??
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bolakbalikmabok wrote:iya ni sama,,
pengen ngurangin berisik di mobil kijang diesel gw jg,,
katanya bisa dengan cara nyetel pompa injektornya yha??
Bisa dgn mundurin timing sedikit (tuning OfR nya aja) serta tambah additive pelumas ke solar.

Hanya saja kalau mundurin timing ada trade off di RPM tinggi.
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Turboman wrote:
bolakbalikmabok wrote:iya ni sama,,
pengen ngurangin berisik di mobil kijang diesel gw jg,,
katanya bisa dengan cara nyetel pompa injektornya yha??
Bisa dgn mundurin timing sedikit (tuning OfR nya aja) serta tambah additive pelumas ke solar.

Hanya saja kalau mundurin timing ada trade off di RPM tinggi.

kalo maw setel gitu dmn yha bos??
ada bengkel rekomen dket2 lokasi saya??
saya di klapa gading ni,,
trus kalo pengen kayak gitu bilang ke montirnya gmn??
pengen agak ngurangin berisik??
oiaa kalo trade off di rpm tinggi maksudnya apa yha bos??
maklum ni newbie di bidang diesel,,
hehehe,,
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kalo dimundurin dikit jadi agak "ngempos" di rpm tinggi alias agak cepet "kehabisan napas" di rpm tinggi.
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^ biasanya mlh dimajuin kan ya...utk dapet tenaga yg lbh oke...dg konsekuensi bunyi yg lbh nyaring.

usaha apapun yg dilakukan utk mengurangi kebisingannya (dr luar kabin), nampaknya gak akan signifikan hasilnya...
dan selama tenaganya dapet, IMO oke2 aja, kompromis...

disisi lain, kalau dr dlm kabin, kan berisiknya gak terlalu berasa tu... nah, jd, mgkin merancang peredaman secara efektif di engine kompartemen bisa lbh signifikan.

sedangkan getraran sewaktu idle (yg biasanya plg berasa di headrest), itu juga gak bisa diminimalisir secara signifikan...
mgkin menukarnya dg mobil bensin, jatuh2nya biaya maintenace & operasional gak beda terlalu jauh kali...
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Pake kek Motor Up gitu pernah ada yg coba?
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klo di mesin phanter2.5 nonturbo dimundurin dikit malah lebih garing suaranya, asapnya ada keputihan; sebaliknya kalo dimajuin.
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asap keputihan kan dihindari ya bro ?...
kalau terpaksa harus memilih, lebih baik kehitaman kan, drpd keputihan ?
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kehitaman aja deh... kalo pake feeling aja sih masih lebih ngacir drpd keputihan (bukan karena oli masuk ruang bakar yah)... :ngacir:
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pek tai (keputihan)? wakakkak. bos andy bisa aja nih.
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iya...GTR tuh, gio ....yg mulai menghembuskan ttg keputihan..... kekekkeke
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lho.... :roll: :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
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emang dari sononya solar dah berisik
kalo di setel emang bisa aja, tp ada plus minusnya.
yang penting kalo mau suara gak telalu berisik, ya peredamnya di kap mesin dan yang ke kabin ditebelin bro
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kalo mau bener2 ilang brisiknya solusinya ya ganti kunci mobilnya sama yang bensin
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swap engine pake mesin accord euro diesel.... :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
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mesin diesel memang hidup dari kompresi
makanya kompresinya dipake tinggi tinggi
tapi konsekwensinya ya suara kasar itu

ada satu trik yang lumayan signifikan menghilangkan nois ini
yaitu dengan menurunkan kompresi mesin
dan untuk ini kita butuh modifikasi lumayan

tapi trik ini punya efek samping tapi ada pemecahannya juga kok
1. tenaga turun
solusi untuk masalah di atas adalah pemasangan turbo
coba perhatikan, disel turbo pasti kompresinya rendah-rendah

2. mobil jadi susah hidup kalau mesin masih dingin
solusinya adalah pemasangan glow plug
mesin common rail aja ada yang pake

semoga mencerahkan
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kalo nga mau berisik gampang sekali..... pertama cuci mobilnya yg bersihhh terus dipoles yang mengkilapppp bangettt.......nah udah deh pajang di garasi rumah.....pasti dijamin 100 persen nga berisik :big_weee: :big_peace:

just kidding bro heheheehh
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kalau Diesel jadhul kaya Taft ma panther susah kayaknya bro sekarang lagi ngetren CRDI :big_peace:
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CRD= Common Rail Diesel?

kalau pakein kayak Motor Up gitu bukannya cukup membantu Om?
kalau masih gak mempan, mending pasangin peredam suara.
kalau gak mempan juga pasangin audio jedug-2an. pasti gak kedengeran.
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diesel mah kalo kaga brisik kaya ada yg kurang gt.... ibarat makan gado2 kaga pake bumbu kacang nya.... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir: