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The best city car buat cw, <50jt

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Keponakan gw (cw) cari mobil, tanya punya tanya... gw bingung kasih jawab yg bagus... krn pilihannya cukup banyak, tp mana yg terbaik??

kriteria:
- budget max. 50jt ... lebih2 dikittt bisa tp ga over budget.
- A/T (matic)
- FC irit (setidaknya plg boros dalkot 1:10an)
- mesin bandel, mudah perawatan dan s.part terjangkau
- pajak murah.
- ukuran kecil (city car) - hatchback
- kaga lebih tua dari adiknya (10th), lebih muda leibh baik.
- kalo bisa modelnya ga culun :P

anyone can help??
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Re: The best city car buat cw, <50jt

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AtoZ GLS a/t 2000
beresin sensor2 ECU nya.... diperbagus remnya.
udah..cakep deh.


Visto,
lebih loncat persnellingnya...
coba cari jg kekurangan lainnya.

Picanto nampaknya ok jg
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karimun GX... :D
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andy1800 wrote:AtoZ GLS a/t 2000
beresin sensor2 ECU nya.... diperbagus remnya.
udah..cakep deh.


Visto,
lebih loncat persnellingnya...
coba cari jg kekurangan lainnya.

Picanto nampaknya ok jg
Noted: ATOZ >> sensor2 ecu kenapa??

Picanto kan ga ada yg 50jt
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nescafe wrote:karimun GX... :D
Stw gw .. karimun ga ada yg A/T .. dan karimun blum ada yg 50jt deh

... emang ada karimun A/T??
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ga ada, tapi durable karimun give much secure drpd korea, terutama buat cewe kalo di jalan.
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kl A/T pilihannya cm Atoz ato Visto tuh. Kl platform + mesin sbnrnya sama persis antara kedua mobil itu. Yg beda cm di sistem pengapiannya: ada yg masih bisa disetel manual, ada yg udah bisa nyesuaian sendiri timingnya.
Saran saja: karena bnyk yg komplain bahwa mbl2 tsb gampang knocking, mending pilih yg bisa diatur manual pengapiannya. Tp sorry, sy lupa mana yg bisa diatur manual pengapiannya, Atoz ato Visto. Dl sy pernah pake Visto, kelemahan ada di AC yg berbunyi berisik (grok2..udah klaim berkali2 tetep bunyi), kopling lemah (yg manual, susah buat start di tanjakan), selebihnya OK.
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Daihatsu Ceria ada yg AT gak?
Chevy Spark juga dapet kayaknya segitu, cuma gw sih mending ceria. Kalo Aveo AT dah dapet apa belom tuh 50 jt?
Pug 206 2001 kayaknya udah maen di level 50an jt juga tuh......
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maxx wrote:
andy1800 wrote:AtoZ GLS a/t 2000
beresin sensor2 ECU nya.... diperbagus remnya.
udah..cakep deh.


Visto,
lebih loncat persnellingnya...
coba cari jg kekurangan lainnya.

Picanto nampaknya ok jg
Noted: ATOZ >> sensor2 ecu kenapa??
pada kasus mobil mas andy, ECU-nya hang... :e-doh:
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GTR wrote:ga ada, tapi durable karimun give much secure drpd korea, terutama buat cewe kalo di jalan.
setuju,
dan memang inilah yg membuat memilihnya menjadi cukup "rumit", memprioritaskan antara: ketidakwas2an mengalami mogok (mumun) vs ke-enak-an matic (atoz/visto).

sensor2 atoz (terutama Crankshaft Position Sensor, CKP..350rban) akan bermasalah stlh 3-5 th...ada jg beberapa kasus: problem di ECU nya (3.5jtan).
secara umum, atoz yg mulai menua akan bermasalah di sistem supply BBM nya... ECU yg salah kasih perintah ke pompa bensin (rotax)...
iya, gw istilahkan ECU nya nge-hang....:mrgreen:
tp, seringkali didiagnose sbg: pompa bensinnya yg melemah, kalau kumparannya panas akan brenti muter (350rban).

udah, itu aja siih.
standar, mesin (terutama controlnya) mobil korea mmg begitu, di atas 3-5 th akan ada komponen engine-control yg perlu direplace.
untunglah sistem engine control nya atoz cukup sederhana... akan memusingkan kalau yg sistemnya lbh rumit spt carnival & trajet.

chevy's termasuk "keluarga korea" juga deh... :mrgreen:
ceria gak ada a/t
oh, picanto gak ada yg 50 ya?... hehehe..delete deh.
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risk mogok di jalan jadi lebih kecil karimun, udah gitu skrg musim hujan mending karimun deh..mana masih karbu ga ada elektrik2 gituan.
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GTR wrote:risk mogok di jalan jadi lebih kecil karimun, udah gitu skrg musim hujan mending karimun deh..mana masih karbu ga ada elektrik2 gituan.
Karimun ga ada yg 50jtan ... semua 60jt keatas
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oh, 60jt an yah, kl visto/atoz gitu?
kan kalo bener2in mobil korea jg nambah budget lebih besar..drpd budget rehab karimun.
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Yup, mending nabung dikit lg ambil karimun...harga memang lbh tinggi, tp harga ga boong-lah...pasti menentukan kualitas. Dulu sblm pake visto, g pake karimun jg, krn nyoba visto sodara enak (responsif), eh dituker d jd visto....malah nyesel...mending pake karimun aja... :ungg:

Spark made in korea, susah dijual lg lho nti.
Ceria kecil n ga pwr steering.
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Risol1 wrote:Daihatsu Ceria ada yg AT gak?
Chevy Spark juga dapet kayaknya segitu, cuma gw sih mending ceria. Kalo Aveo AT dah dapet apa belom tuh 50 jt?
Pug 206 2001 kayaknya udah maen di level 50an jt juga tuh......
Ceria ga ada yg a/t ... seru juga tuh kalo ceria ada yg a/t :D

Spark thn 2004 sih dapat 50jtan, tp ga ada matic
Aveo msh 70-80jtan

kalo pesut.. mungkin 306 th 98 ye.. cuma s.part & pajaknya gimana tuh?
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pake peugeot, kasian buat cewe merawatnya klo bukan pecinta mobil.
juga kalo tau2 mogok di jalan, gimana coba.
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abenk80 wrote:Yup, mending nabung dikit lg ambil karimun...harga memang lbh tinggi, tp harga ga boong-lah...pasti menentukan kualitas. Dulu sblm pake visto, g pake karimun jg, krn nyoba visto sodara enak (responsif), eh dituker d jd visto....malah nyesel...mending pake karimun aja... :ungg:

Spark made in korea, susah dijual lg lho nti.
Ceria kecil n ga pwr steering.
Hmmm... karimun ... anaknya mo A/T ... makanya gw bingung kasih jawaban ke dia secara kalo dipikir2 kok kaga ada ya yg bagus dan spt dia mau :D
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maxx wrote:Ceria ga ada yg a/t ... seru juga tuh kalo ceria ada yg a/t :D

Spark thn 2004 sih dapat 50jtan, tp ga ada matic
Aveo msh 70-80jtan

kalo pesut.. mungkin 306 th 98 ye.. cuma s.part & pajaknya gimana tuh?
Oh gak ada yg AT ya?
wah report juga......pilihannya gak banyak.

Spark jualnya lagi emang susah sih secara mobilnya jg jarang.

Kalo 206 belom dapet ya kepala 50? Soalnya adik gw baru TT.....206 nya tahun 03 atau 04 (CKD AT) plus velg 18 cuma dihargain 70 jt pas.....Jadi gw pikir 206 01 mungkin dapet dapet kepala 50.....hehehe....

Sekarang masalahnya apakah yg mao pake itu bisa bawa MT gak? soalnya kalo gak bisa (kaya ade gw)....percuma aja ngomongin karimun, walaupun lebih reliable tapi gak bisa nyetirnya hehehehe.....
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hmm...repot nih...tp pake a/t untuk mbl 1000cc kynya agak underpower d...takutnya malah ga dapet 1:10 dalkot...apalg udah mulai berumur...buat pertimbangan aja si.

hyundai accent yg sblm verna kynya bs dpt jg tuh...dia ada a/t nya tuh...tp lg2 korea...tp kynya mesin accent msh lbh mending krn dipake buat taksi.
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GTR wrote:pake peugeot, kasian buat cewe merawatnya klo bukan pecinta mobil.
juga kalo tau2 mogok di jalan, gimana coba.
emang sih mobilnya agak rewel.....kemaren sempet mogok gara2 jarum fuel gaugenya ngaco....manteng di F terus, taunya tangki udah kering.....masuk beres kena jutaan....
Abis itu gw pernah bawa, tu mobil kayanya susah banget nanjaknya.......enak jazz deh kemana2....Tapi emang musti diakui fiturnya udah lengkap buat mobil 70jtan, dapet tahun lebih muda, dan juga modelnya cakep kalo dibanding atoz/visto, apalagi karimun.....

Tapi kalo buat gw pake sendiri, g ambil karimun juga sih.....cape kalo mobil sering rewel.
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Muter2... balik ke karimun lagi... :P ...

ga ada solusi ya... ckkk... heee... :e-think:
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ha3, karimun, trus beli a/t gelondongan ex singapur.... :mrgreen:
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GTR wrote:ha3, karimun, trus beli a/t gelondongan ex singapur.... :mrgreen:
heeeeeeeee... over budget bos... Karimun aja udah over budget :D
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atoz pun sebenarnya jg over budget.
tp dgn hunting nampaknya masih bisa dapet yg pas-pas 50jt.
cuma, itu berarti gak ada lagi budget buat beres2 mesin & membikin hati tenang dg bikin enak rem nya.

kl budgetnya ketat begitu rupa, memang atoz pilihan yg kompromis.
cari yg diyakini bahwa sensor2nya udah di-oke-in
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@ Maxx
beli punyanya bos Andy aja tuh bro Maxx.....kan masih bagus kondisinya.

@ Andy
Jual aja Atoznya bos, kan dah ada tuh Fort V Special Edition 2.5 rows kekekeke.....