Penyebab transmisi CVT jebol

[Herman7103]

Dulu saya pernah baca di ada beberapa ribu Mobilix ditemukan adanya masalah pada komponen "Drive Pulley Shaft" nya di perangkat CVT.  Masalah itu juga sebelumnya juga ditemukan pada City dan Jazz di Malaysia.

Masalah pada perangkat tersebut menyebabkan tekanan hidrolik yang berlebihan dari oli CVT saat pedal gas diinjak dan dilepas secara cepat dan berulang-ulang saat mobil melaju kecepatan tinggi.

Akibatnya, mobil akan kehilangan daya bahkan berhenti meski mesin dalam keadaan hidup.

[DOHC]

Dulu saya pernah baca di ada beberapa ribu Mobilix ditemukan adanya masalah pada komponen "Drive Pulley Shaft" nya di perangkat CVT.  Masalah itu juga sebelumnya juga ditemukan pada City dan Jazz di Malaysia.

Masalah pada perangkat tersebut menyebabkan tekanan hidrolik yang berlebihan dari oli CVT saat pedal gas diinjak dan dilepas secara cepat dan berulang-ulang saat mobil melaju kecepatan tinggi.

Akibatnya, mobil akan kehilangan daya bahkan berhenti meski mesin dalam keadaan hidup.

Kl kasus cvt di malon kayanya ga bsa dijadikan acuan om

Orang2 malon tuh lebi gila injek gas nya, makanya cvt honda yg gen baru, justru d develop di malon sana, biar ketauan seberapa kuat d abuse ama orang2 malon

Jangankan honda, di paultan aj dl banyak yg komplen juke, almera , gl cvt yg jebol

[Profith83]

Njirr

Lio 220 rebu cvt jebol

Hrv saya ud 130an.. pedal to kampret mulu lg

Berarti umurnya tinggal veberapa puluh rebu lg donk

Mending jual aj kl yah mumpung masi enak

lio beda sm hrv gk5 model cvt nya. dia samanya sm brio n brv n belum earthdream version. konon yg itu emang lemah terutama di lio apalagi sering diisi beban full.

lio aja bisa 220k dgn beres schedule apalagi hrv jij yg tiap ada ga enak dikit dibongkar.

Wahh kl cvt girbok blom brani bongkar mbah

Ilmu asemregez belom sampe kl ampe bongkar2 metik


Btw, td barusan iseng panasin hrv sembari bawa muter2... iseng pas lg jalan pelan, trus setir puter sikit sambil d bejeg pedal to kampret, ga tau nya ban sempet selip sikit loh mbah

Lmayannn, masi strong berarti beltnya

Kemarin Lio saya coba belokan juga bejek, ada spin dikit sst sst dijalan

[Poporing]

lio beda sm hrv gk5 model cvt nya. dia samanya sm brio n brv n belum earthdream version. konon yg itu emang lemah terutama di lio apalagi sering diisi beban full.

lio aja bisa 220k dgn beres schedule apalagi hrv jij yg tiap ada ga enak dikit dibongkar.

Kalo jazz GK semuanya PRNDS mbah?
Kalo hrv 1.5 ada yg PRNDS, ada yg PRNDSL..
Klo misalnya bgitu, kira2 itu 1 cvt assy yg sama kah?

emang ada yg PRNDSL? yg 1.8L ya?

hrv yg 1.5 vs 1.8 cvt gearboxnya ga tau sama ngga

Yg 1.5 om.. tipe S
Yg ga ada paddle shift...
Kalo 1.8 sih kyknya prnds

[Herman7103]

10 Symptoms of a Bad Transmission

Posted on October 7, 2019 by Advanced Transmission



Did you know that your transmission experiences more wear during the lifetime of your vehicle than any other mechanical component? A smoothly functioning transmission is just as important to a vehicle as its engine. It is up to the transmission to multiply engine torque to usable power to spin the wheels of a vehicle at varying gear ratios depending on speed and load. However, no vehicle owner wants to deal with transmission issues. In fact, many drivers would sooner be ignorant about the symptoms of a damaged or quickly failing transmission. This explains why the transmission is the most underappreciated, misunderstood, and neglected major component in a vehicle. As A. Meredith Walters pointed out, “Ignoring things won’t make them go away. It only makes it harder to face them when they finally come around.”

We get it. No one would wish the inconvenience or expense of a transmission rebuild or repair upon their enemy. However, avoiding the topic will not prevent transmission issues. On the other hand, understanding the symptoms of a bad transmission before it fails and taking it to an experienced specialty repair shop can both lengthen the life of your transmission and save money. Often, expensive repairs can be avoided with regular vehicle maintenance – or with a quick inspection when something unusual is noticed. For example, a solenoid block or sensor can be replaced today for a fraction of a total transmission rebuild a few weeks or months down the road.

If you do need a transmission rebuild, trust a team with nearly 100 years of combined in-house transmission rebuild experience.

In this article, we discuss 10 signs your transmission went out for your reference. Some symptoms may fall into multiple categories but ultimately consider it a red flag if you experience any one or a combination of the symptoms below.

1. Lack of Response

Hesitation, or outright refusal, to shift into the proper gear is a telltale sign of transmission trouble. The inability to shift can be electric, hydraulic or mechanical. At times, this may feel like a delay when shifting from drive to park before the gear properly engages, especially for vehicles with automatic transmissions. For vehicles with manual transmissions, the lack of response often takes the form of disconnect between the revving of the engine’s RPMs and actual vehicle speed. In this case, the expected acceleration of the vehicle is seemingly much lower than the sound of the engine would imply. Some describe this a transmission “slipping.”

2. Odd Sounds

Vehicle noises differ, depending on vehicle make and model. When determining if you should pay close attention to a specific sound, consider two questions:

Is this a sound you have never heard before? If the noise is extremely out-of-the-ordinary, you should get your vehicle looked at by your local transmission shop and a team of certified transmission specialists.

Does the sound resemble humming, buzzing, whining, or clunking? These are most commonly used to describe transmission failure noises. With hundreds of parts in a transmission, a single bearing or even a worn case can emit a troubling noise. Unfortunately, these noises are more than just a hindrance. They ultimate lead to transmission failure. It is worth differentiating noises unique to automatic and manual transmission. Often, bad automatic transmissions will emit humming, buzzing, or whining sounds; manual transmissions emit harsher mechanical noises, such as clunking. Some of these noises may relate to the engine, exhaust system, drive shaft, differentials or even a wheel bearing. At this stage, it’s extremely important to diagnosis the sound correctly.

3. Leaking Fluid

Leaking fluid is recognizable and easy to diagnose. Automatic transmission fluid (ATF) gives life to the transmission. ATF lubricates transmission components to decrease friction and prevent overheating. It also functions as a hydraulic fluid allowing gear engagement. If ATF can leak, the transmission will operate with low fluid leading to an increased chance of overheating. This is the quickest way for a transmission to break down. If you see a pool of bright red fluid beneath your vehicle, take it to a transmission shop immediately. Take note: if the leaked fluid is dark brown or black and emits a seared odor, the fluid may be burnt; if this is the case, no minor repair or maintenance procedure can fix the internal failure already present. On the other hand, a transmission pan gasket might be compromised where a transmission power flush and pan/gasket repair can fix the problem for a few hundred bucks rather than a few thousand dollars!

4. Grinding, Jerking, or Shaking

Shaking and jerking are good indicators of transmission trouble. Gear grinding is a common symptom in manual transmission vehicles. Automatic transmission failure often begins with some hesitation during gears shifting. Some might describe this a “slipping,” as well. Eventually, the vehicle may begin trembling or shaking during shifting. There are alternative causes for these symptoms. Engine and transmission mounts are notorious for clunking and jerking between gears. The best way to diagnose the issue is by bringing your vehicle to a repair expert immediately to determine the true problem. Any delay will likely cause further damage.

5. Burning Smell

As mentioned previously, leaked fluid is a bad sign. However, if no leakage accompanies the burning odor, your transmission fluid is probably overheating due to clutch debris, breakdown of metallic components and sludge. If transmission fluid has not been flushed or serviced on a vehicle with over 100,000 miles, this is a common outcome.

How will you know what burnt transmission fluid smells like? When ATF burns, it omits a uniquely acrid smell, closer to the stench of burning rubber than burning oil. If the transmission fluid gets extremely hot, you may even observe smoke. Once the fluid is burnt it no longer can complete its responsibilities to manage heat, lubricate parts and hydraulically shift gears.

6. Won’t Go into Gear

You may have found yourself in this terrible scenario: sitting in a stagnant vehicle with the engine on – and you cannot move. Your transmission won’t go into gear. Cars honk, swivel around you, traffic halts for miles… Even if you have never experienced this, any driver can imagine the situation with gut-wrenching revulsion.

So, what is the issue? If your vehicle won’t go into gear, several issues can be the culprit. A few potential issues include improper transmission fluid type, incorrect shift cable positioning, internal mechanic failure, a clogged filter, faulty clutch linkage, failing solenoids, malfunctioning sensors, or a malfunctioning computer system.

7. Service Engine Soon

Beyond the possibility of transmission issues, your vehicle’s Check Engine Light is designed as an incredible early indication of a problem. Do not ignore this warning sign, and do not assume that the warning light came on for no reason. The service light on your dashboard responds to sensors placed at crucial points inside the vehicle, sensors that detect slight unusual vibrations that you may not detect while driving. Don’t wait for your vehicle to begin grinding and trembling; if the Check Engine Light turns on, it is best to take your vehicle to a repair shop you trust for an accurate diagnosis right away. In some cases, a diagnostic code could point to a minor repair that prevents a major (and costly) repair. In other circumstances, the diagnostic code tells a technician a major repair (e.g. transmission rebuild or replacement) is required.

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8. Noisy Transmission in Neutral

Pay attention to the sound of your transmission in neutral. Does your transmission “bump” or quake? Some noises, such as this, require adding or changing the automatic transmission fluid or some other simple fix. Other times, however, a more serious issue at on hand, and – as we’ve mentioned many times – taking your vehicle to a specialty repair shop is the safest and most cost-effective option. It might sound silly but many Chrysler, including Dodge and Jeep brands, vehicles require fluid inspection in neutral.

9. Slipping Gears

Each symptom listed above could pose risk; however, slipping gears is an obviously serious safety hazard for both vehicle owners and surrounding drivers/ pedestrians. To avoid a dangerous situation, often a driver is forced to slam on the breaks or quickly accelerate. A vehicle that doesn’t respond, or slips between gears or into neutral, poses a serious safety threat. At this point, it is a matter of public safety to take your vehicle into a professional transmission repair shop to be examined. Many modern transmissions will prevent a driver from recklessly driving with a damaged transmission by going into “limp mode” or “safe mode.” Under this circumstance, the computer system will detect a problem with the transmission and default to one gear. The vehicle will not shift between gears and will only operate in one gear, often 3rd gear, as a safety mechanism to allow the driver to get the vehicle to a local transmission shop.

 10. Dragging Clutch

A dragging clutch is experienced by manual transmissions only, making it extremely difficult to change gears – sometimes impossible. A dragging clutch occurs when the clutch disc and flywheel don’t disengage when the clutch pedal is pushed. In some cases, a manual transmission might also “pop-out” of gear. Oftentimes, these issues are accompanied by grinding noises during gear shifting. The master and slave cylinder must be inspected as the hydraulics of the clutch pedal to clutch to flywheel engagement is often the source of a transmission misdiagnosis

[Omnibus]

Kalo jazz GK semuanya PRNDS mbah?
Kalo hrv 1.5 ada yg PRNDS, ada yg PRNDSL..
Klo misalnya bgitu, kira2 itu 1 cvt assy yg sama kah?

emang ada yg PRNDSL? yg 1.8L ya?

hrv yg 1.5 vs 1.8 cvt gearboxnya ga tau sama ngga

Yg 1.5 om.. tipe S
Yg ga ada paddle shift...
Kalo 1.8 sih kyknya prnds

sama kl sesama 1.5 even beda trim level.

[dori2802]

ini ga ada yg cerita derita CVT batu makam....

[josomba]

ini ga ada yg cerita derita CVT batu makam....

Sudah dikubur dalam2 om deritanya

[DOHC]

ini ga ada yg cerita derita CVT batu makam....

Kasiann

Ini belom crita cvt aj ud ambrol seken nya

Kl dtambah2 lg ini itu, bsa2 pd berakhir di parung smua tu batu makam

[benzz89]

ini ga ada yg cerita derita CVT batu makam....

Sudah dikubur dalam2 om deritanya

Ntar jg ada lg om jilid 2 nya... pilem susana bangkit dr kubur aja ada lg sambungannya.

Posternya kesukaan mbah klep tuh... yg lg mendelik, kayanya ditempel di kamar tidurnya si om klep jd keingetan terus dia hahahah...[emoji16]

[evanbngdor]

ini ga ada yg cerita derita CVT batu makam....

Kasiann

Ini belom crita cvt aj ud ambrol seken nya

Kl dtambah2 lg ini itu, bsa2 pd berakhir di parung smua tu batu makam

Pernah liat ada yg jual tuh xtrail t31 autech, kondisi CVT perlu perbaikan bilangnya. Jual 75jt nego tipis.

Biaya perbaikannya bs seharga mobilnya itu kalo di bengkel resmi

[DOHC]

ini ga ada yg cerita derita CVT batu makam....

Kasiann

Ini belom crita cvt aj ud ambrol seken nya

Kl dtambah2 lg ini itu, bsa2 pd berakhir di parung smua tu batu makam

Pernah liat ada yg jual tuh xtrail t31 autech, kondisi CVT perlu perbaikan bilangnya. Jual 75jt nego tipis.

Biaya perbaikannya bs seharga mobilnya itu kalo di bengkel resmi

Padahal kes cvt jatco itu ga tralu susah loh mbah

Mreka mainly cuman masalah belt yg melar doank, kl selenoid dkk cenderung aman, apalagi yg cvt gen 2

Kl bengkel nya ngerti sehh ganti belt urusan klaar

[josomba]

ini ga ada yg cerita derita CVT batu makam....

Sudah dikubur dalam2 om deritanya

Ntar jg ada lg om jilid 2 nya... pilem susana bangkit dr kubur aja ada lg sambungannya.

Posternya kesukaan mbah klep tuh... yg lg mendelik, kayanya ditempel di kamar tidurnya si om klep jd keingetan terus dia hahahah...[emoji16]

jangan om, kita gaboleh membuat salah satu user di atas goyah. D posting2an d atas kan ada yg targetnya mau pelihara nissin dengan cvt-nya 20 tahun. Gaboleh kita bahas sipiti nissin yg jelek2...

[fajarrian]

ini ga ada yg cerita derita CVT batu makam....

di grup sebelah dulu taun 2015an banyak tuh L11 km baru 40rban udah pada jebol cvtnya
alhamdulillah L11 sy sih dari 2013-2020 km 105rb masih aman jaya sentosa sentosa sampe setelah dijual

cvtnya batu makan kayanya emang rada sensitip sama manja, harus super duper alus bawanya gabisa asal bejek gas kalo mau awet, lagian kalo di bejek juga cuma diem di tempat mesin doang ngeraung

[evanbngdor]

Kasiann

Ini belom crita cvt aj ud ambrol seken nya

Kl dtambah2 lg ini itu, bsa2 pd berakhir di parung smua tu batu makam

Pernah liat ada yg jual tuh xtrail t31 autech, kondisi CVT perlu perbaikan bilangnya. Jual 75jt nego tipis.

Biaya perbaikannya bs seharga mobilnya itu kalo di bengkel resmi

Padahal kes cvt jatco itu ga tralu susah loh mbah

Mreka mainly cuman masalah belt yg melar doank, kl selenoid dkk cenderung aman, apalagi yg cvt gen 2

Kl bengkel nya ngerti sehh ganti belt urusan klaar

Kalo bengkel resmi biasanya gak mau repot&aji mumpung ya ganti semua aja

[DOHC]

Cvt itu sebenernya nyawanya cuman satu

Oli cvtf nya

Either the sultan omnibus way atau the DIY asemregez way (tap tiap 15 rb km)

Niscaya awet itu

[dori2802]

cvtnya batu makan kayanya emang rada sensitip sama manja, harus super duper alus bawanya gabisa asal bejek gas kalo mau awet, lagian kalo di bejek juga cuma diem di tempat mesin doang ngeraung

waduh.... gitu ya om. ane bawa C26 di tol trans stabil speed 140, kadang > 150. gara2 niru kompre sama om klep.
jangan kasih kendor ke mobil....


dan harus ganti oli CVT nganu berarti..

[Suryaputra]

Cvt itu sebenernya nyawanya cuman satu

Oli cvtf nya

Either the sultan omnibus way atau the DIY asemregez way (tap tiap 15 rb km)

Niscaya awet itu

even pk amsoil juga OCI sesuai rekomendasi produsen.
klo honda max per 2 thn.

ya klo pk atf beres km nya dipendekin ajah

[josomba]

waduh.... gitu ya om. ane bawa C26 di tol trans stabil speed 140, kadang > 150. gara2 niru kompre sama om klep.
jangan kasih kendor ke mobil....


dan harus ganti oli CVT nganu berarti..

Kalau owe sih tetep bejek2 aja um, selama tiap 20-30k KM ganti cvtf-nya nissin, sejauh ini t32 di rumah masih aman sentosa padahal suka ane bejek2 kalau di tol...

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Beberapa tahun silam alm. bokap bener2 fans nissin garis keras. Rawatan ngandelin BeRes thok, 2 mobil ber-sipiti di gambar ini dijual karena sipiti-nya dah dengung. Yg tengah bahkan suka masuk limp mode kalau abis ane pake di cipularangbahn

[dori2802]

Beberapa tahun silam alm. bokap bener2 fans nissin garis keras. Rawatan ngandelin BeRes thok, 2 mobil ber-sipiti di gambar ini dijual karena sipiti-nya dah dengung. Yg tengah bahkan suka masuk limp mode kalau abis ane pake di cipularangbahn

limp mode itu muncul alert/notifikasi di dashboard ga om? atau gejalanya gmn?

[fajarrian]

cvtnya batu makan kayanya emang rada sensitip sama manja, harus super duper alus bawanya gabisa asal bejek gas kalo mau awet, lagian kalo di bejek juga cuma diem di tempat mesin doang ngeraung

waduh.... gitu ya om. ane bawa C26 di tol trans stabil speed 140, kadang > 150. gara2 niru kompre sama om klep.
jangan kasih kendor ke mobil....


dan harus ganti oli CVT nganu berarti..

di speed mah ngaruh mo speedometer ampe mentok juga gpp , asal ngegasnya di urut ga tiba2 pedal to kampret

btw hrv, brio, sama jazz juga banyk noh yang jebol km masih pada dikit, liat di grup fb yang udah jebol pasti rata2 udah dastek, bawa asal sruntulan

[josomba]

limp mode itu muncul alert/notifikasi di dashboard ga om? atau gejalanya gmn?

Kalau d juke sih dulu rpm gabisa lebih dr 4k, terus kalau kek masih dipaksa jalan selama 1 jam gitu, CE nyala.

[dori2802]

limp mode itu muncul alert/notifikasi di dashboard ga om? atau gejalanya gmn?

Kalau d juke sih dulu rpm gabisa lebih dr 4k, terus kalau kek masih dipaksa jalan selama 1 jam gitu, CE nyala.

noted mbah...terima kasih

[DOHC]

Cvt itu sebenernya nyawanya cuman satu

Oli cvtf nya

Either the sultan omnibus way atau the DIY asemregez way (tap tiap 15 rb km)

Niscaya awet itu

even pk amsoil juga OCI sesuai rekomendasi produsen.
klo honda max per 2 thn.

ya klo pk atf beres km nya dipendekin ajah

Kan mbah masas dah perna bersabda

Itu cvt ibarat mesin gerus besi.. ntuh belt baja ibarat diserut pelan2

Makanya wajip atf bagus, atau at least minim kontaminan

[adityabp]

Cvt itu sebenernya nyawanya cuman satu

Oli cvtf nya

Either the sultan omnibus way atau the DIY asemregez way (tap tiap 15 rb km)

Niscaya awet itu

Tambahin ATF cooler buat nyawa cadangan.