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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 10]

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Dat510 wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 16:12
marmut wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 15:33
Dat510 wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 10:31

, masin mau start tapi ngga mau idle, langsung RPM drop sampe mati. Dia mau nahan kalo saya injek pedal gas..

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kalo di kabilator, ini solenoid yang buat atur idle mampet. cukup semprot kompresor atau kabilator kliner pasti beres.
Nah ini kunci nya..

Saya penasaran mobil yg sebelum ICV nya diganti baik2 aja, pas setelah diganti malah oglek. Besokannya saya bongkar lagi

1. Copot air filter box, cabin filter housing, sama shield ECU buat mempermudah akses
2. Copot MAF, bersihin pake MAF cleaner
3. Copot intake boot buat periksa klo ada crack
4. Copot DISA valve supaya bisa akses ICV nya
5. Terakhir copot ICV

Mulustrasi

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Si ICV nyempil dibawah si DISA Valve.
Pas acara copot mencopot itu baut2 pada dikencengin pake tenaga setan semua, saya sampe harus pake JTC 1201 yg lebih panjang buat ngebuka, pake ratchet 1/4 biasa ngga kuat.

Setelah dicopot ada yang aneh, ada tulisan di part yang lama 292, di part yang copotan 268, saya ngga tau arti angka itu tapi dari situ yakin something is different, untungnya part lama saya bawa pulang, tadinya niat tinggal aja dibuang pikir toh udah rusak.

PELAJARAN 2
Unless kita 100% yakin itu part rusak, better jangan dibuang dlu incase needed.

Saya lihat video di youtube ternyata ICV itu gampang dibersihin, orang2 pake brake cleaner, tapi kemarin saya adanya WD yaudah jadi pake itu aja, abis di semprot2 itu ICV langsung lancar lagi dong bunyi klotak2.. Akhir nya saya pake lagi itu ICV lama, pasang semua, dan pas di start vroom vrrrrrrrrrr, idle halusss normal kaya biasa, scan > clear shadow memory, rescan, normal no fault code from engine.. :mky_02: :mky_02: :mky_02:

Diagnose Dat510, fixed it again...! :mky_02:

Sebener nya agak disayangkan pas ICV lama saya macet kenapa bengkel nyaranin pakai copotan, kenapa ngga nyaranin dibersihin aja padahal cuma 5-10 detik itu semprot2 ICV.. Tapi saya no hard feeling sama si bengkel karena klo ngga ada dia pun mungkin saya ngga bisa pulang.
Disayangkan juga part penggantinya ngga teliti 100% exactly the same..

Side note:
Saya pakai socket set 1/4 kenmaster buat bongkar2 itu semua, wkwkwk
cuma ketambahan magnetic tray mnotaro, JTC 1201, & beberapa tools non socket / torx lain.
Magnetic pickup tools sangat bermanfaat, tools/baut kecil2 sering jatoh. Korbannya ext 2" sama bit obeng minus saya jatoh terus ngga ketemu, wkwk, entah nyelip dimana..
MAF sensor & IACV kotor itu penyakit kronis mobil2 jaman sekarang. Gejalanya RPM naik-turun saat idle, saat di-gas ndut-ndutan.
Kondisi udara yang berdebu, lama-lama numpuk kotoran debu di MAF sensor & IACV. Bersihin MAF sensor satu paket dgn setel klep saat tune-up. Sialnya, lebih sering mobil lemot karena MAF sensor & IACV kotor dibanding setelan klep telah renggang.
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 10]

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Dat510 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 2:13
blloewy wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 1:30 Jadi ini karena sensor Idlenya yg error sementara ya Om?
Cukup bersihkan saja dan akhirnya normal lagi?
ICV = Idle Air Control Valve aka idle-up bentukannya valve gtu mbah bukan sensor, hehe..

kaya gni
BMW-13411744713-13-41-1-744-713-SF-Bosch-Idle-Control-Valve-1.jpg

As mbah marmut said dia nyedot udara yang mengandung uap oli, over time akan ada carbon build up yang bikin flap nya macet, tinggal semprot2 brake cleaner / WD (saya ngga tau yg tepat pake cairan apa) beres..
blloewy wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 1:30 Hmmm....beginilah antara suka dan dukanya pny mobil dgn teknologi terbarukan :big_grin:
Dia sdh ks info di awal hei something wrong with this sensor reading tp kdg kita clear2 aja begitu ya? :big_think:
Ya mbah enak sebener nya mobil yg banyak indicator light, klo ada apa2 mobil nya ngasih tau, tinggal kita nya mau ngeberesin apa ngga, di case saya ini saya bandel karena tiap EML muncul cuma restart mesin beres jadi root cause nya ngga dicari sampe akhirnya fatal effect.
Woh ternyata Control Valve kecil yg ngatur setelan udara ya...
Mirip kaya PCV Valve di Lipindut kah ini kerjanya?
Krn dia jg nyedot udara mau besar apa kecil gt yg masuk :big_think:
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mbah, untuk buka oksigen sensor, pakai tool apaan ya?

pake kunci 22 biasa, atau kunci2 letter L pasti mentok di extra fan. solusi nya pakai kunci T, tp bentuk ring gitu ga bisa masuk krn ada kabel. mau beli special tool+batang T nya harganya udh seharga oksigen sensornya. hahaha
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 10]

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Dat510 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 2:13

Iya mbah, kayanya tiap 80k perlu dibersihin si ICV ini..


balik lagi tergantung pake olmes apa?
tempo hari ada yang bingung gegara EGR gaada kotoran jelaga apalagi kerak karena rutin pake oli nganu.

:mky_03:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 10]

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Omnibus wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 2:34
Dat510 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 2:13 ada carbon build up yang bikin flap nya macet, tinggal semprot2 brake cleaner / WD (saya ngga tau yg tepat pake cairan apa) beres..
yg tepat pakai brake cleaner atau intake cleaner dan disemprot kompresor. hindari pakai carb cleaner krn tdk compatible dgn plastik mat'l

pakai wd kurang tepat krn itu utk penetrant bukan cleaning action (kotorannya msh ada di dalam).
Siap mbah.. Otw beli WD Brake cleaner, CRC Intake cleaner, & CRC contact cleaner..
Pilihan brand2 nya udah ok blum ni mbah?
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 10]

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Or4cle wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 3:17
MAF sensor & IACV kotor itu penyakit kronis mobil2 jaman sekarang. Gejalanya RPM naik-turun saat idle, saat di-gas ndut-ndutan.
Kondisi udara yang berdebu, lama-lama numpuk kotoran debu di MAF sensor & IACV. Bersihin MAF sensor satu paket dgn setel klep saat tune-up. Sialnya, lebih sering mobil lemot karena MAF sensor & IACV kotor dibanding setelan klep telah renggang.
IACV kalau yang TBW kan dah ga terpisah lagi dari throttle plate.
MAF sensor biar ga cepet kotor sebaiknya jangan pakai filter yang dioli-in

gitu kali om ? :ungg:


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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 10]

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blloewy wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 3:28
Dat510 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 2:13
blloewy wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 1:30 Jadi ini karena sensor Idlenya yg error sementara ya Om?
Cukup bersihkan saja dan akhirnya normal lagi?
ICV = Idle Air Control Valve aka idle-up bentukannya valve gtu mbah bukan sensor, hehe..

kaya gni
BMW-13411744713-13-41-1-744-713-SF-Bosch-Idle-Control-Valve-1.jpg

As mbah marmut said dia nyedot udara yang mengandung uap oli, over time akan ada carbon build up yang bikin flap nya macet, tinggal semprot2 brake cleaner / WD (saya ngga tau yg tepat pake cairan apa) beres..
blloewy wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 1:30 Hmmm....beginilah antara suka dan dukanya pny mobil dgn teknologi terbarukan :big_grin:
Dia sdh ks info di awal hei something wrong with this sensor reading tp kdg kita clear2 aja begitu ya? :big_think:
Ya mbah enak sebener nya mobil yg banyak indicator light, klo ada apa2 mobil nya ngasih tau, tinggal kita nya mau ngeberesin apa ngga, di case saya ini saya bandel karena tiap EML muncul cuma restart mesin beres jadi root cause nya ngga dicari sampe akhirnya fatal effect.
Woh ternyata Control Valve kecil yg ngatur setelan udara ya...
Mirip kaya PCV Valve di Lipindut kah ini kerjanya?
Krn dia jg nyedot udara mau besar apa kecil gt yg masuk :big_think:
Ini lebih tepat kalau saya geser mic ke mbah
marmut wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 4:45
atau mbah
Omnibus wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 2:34
marmut wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 4:45
Dat510 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 2:13

Iya mbah, kayanya tiap 80k perlu dibersihin si ICV ini..


balik lagi tergantung pake olmes apa?
tempo hari ada yang bingung gegara EGR gaada kotoran jelaga apalagi kerak karena rutin pake oli nganu.

:mky_03:
Hmm pas sama saya si selalu pake yg BMW LL-01 certified, first 4 years SHU 5w-40, last 2 years LuquiMoly Hightech 5W-40..
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Horeeee tret akirnya kenceng lg

Thank u mbah dat
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 10]

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marmut wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 4:45
Dat510 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 2:13

Iya mbah, kayanya tiap 80k perlu dibersihin si ICV ini..


balik lagi tergantung pake olmes apa?
tempo hari ada yang bingung gegara EGR gaada kotoran jelaga apalagi kerak karena rutin pake oli nganu.

:mky_03:
Siapa ini mbah?
Malu2in aja sdh 2022 mobil msh pake EGR juga :big_slap:


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marmut wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 4:45
Dat510 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 2:13

Iya mbah, kayanya tiap 80k perlu dibersihin si ICV ini..


balik lagi tergantung pake olmes apa?
tempo hari ada yang bingung gegara EGR gaada kotoran jelaga apalagi kerak karena rutin pake oli nganu.

:mky_03:
Si mbah satu itu memang kudu pensiun dr oli amerika biar keliatan ada kotornya dikit lah jeroan mesin...

:big_biglaugh:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 10]

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singachu wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 4:53
Or4cle wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 3:17
MAF sensor & IACV kotor itu penyakit kronis mobil2 jaman sekarang. Gejalanya RPM naik-turun saat idle, saat di-gas ndut-ndutan.
Kondisi udara yang berdebu, lama-lama numpuk kotoran debu di MAF sensor & IACV. Bersihin MAF sensor satu paket dgn setel klep saat tune-up. Sialnya, lebih sering mobil lemot karena MAF sensor & IACV kotor dibanding setelan klep telah renggang.
IACV kalau yang TBW kan dah ga terpisah lagi dari throttle plate.
MAF sensor biar ga cepet kotor sebaiknya jangan pakai filter yang dioli-in

gitu kali om ? :ungg:


regards,
singachu

Gak terpisah mbah, nyambung di throttle body plate tapi bisa dibuka.
Justru filter di kasih oli biar debu nempel di filter tsb, efek jeleknya ada kemungkinan oli tsb malah bikin MAF sensor kotor.
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 10]

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Omnibus wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 11:54

kasih temennya dong mbah kasian kan bobo cendilian ... :wkkk:



kaya gini mbah?


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Dat510 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 4:48
Siap mbah.. Otw beli WD Brake cleaner, CRC Intake cleaner, & CRC contact cleaner..
Pilihan brand2 nya udah ok blum ni mbah?
:big_exellent: :big_exellent: :big_exellent: :big_exellent: :big_exellent:


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josomba wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 6:03
marmut wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 4:45
Dat510 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 2:13

Iya mbah, kayanya tiap 80k perlu dibersihin si ICV ini..


balik lagi tergantung pake olmes apa?
tempo hari ada yang bingung gegara EGR gaada kotoran jelaga apalagi kerak karena rutin pake oli nganu.

:mky_03:
Si mbah satu itu memang kudu pensiun dr oli amerika biar keliatan ada kotornya dikit lah jeroan mesin...

:big_biglaugh:
bukan saya mbah .... suweerrrr :big_biglaugh:

itu om yg buatan jerman itu lho ...
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 10]

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marmut wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 6:27
Omnibus wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 11:54

kasih temennya dong mbah kasian kan bobo cendilian ... :wkkk:



kaya gini mbah?



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waduh posisi 69 :big_bored:

ngana sengaja ya spy matching sama nama bengkel ngana :big_think:
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Omnibus wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 8:05 bukan saya mbah .... suweerrrr :big_biglaugh:

itu om yg buatan jerman itu lho ...
Wkwkwkw iya mbah

Pas kapan hari ketemuan di garasi69, dia cerita langsung juga.

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dateng juga ahirnya....


IMG20220518155806.jpg


ki-ka :
tone 10-12mm, botol oli made in yapan 300ml, botol oli made yapan 180ml.
ga percaya kalo made in yapan? nyoohhh....


IMG_20220518_160421.jpg


berikutnya....


IMG20220518155857.jpg


perbandingan dengan ob14 nr.12 dan jtc 11-13mm


IMG20220518160040.jpg


mau buka plastiknya, sayang ah.... kapan2 aja kalo inget.

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marmut wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 17:40 selesai sudah tugas saya beli tools karena nggak mungkin lagi untuk beli, mau taruh dimana? liat sendiri, penuh kan?



IMG20220518003254.jpg



kiri-kanan :
ph1 - ph2 - ph2 - ph3 - ph4 - pz1 - pz2 - slotted 3,5 - slotted 4 - slotted 5
itu holdernya doank yg Vessel mbah?
bit-nya bukan vessel?
ga sekalian cari bit yg JIS?
biar enak buka2 mobil JDM
:big_childish:

*dilempar air impact ingersoll
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Poporing wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 9:21
itu holdernya doank yg Vessel mbah?
bit-nya bukan vessel?
ga sekalian cari bit yg JIS?
biar enak buka2 mobil JDM
:big_childish:

*dilempar air impact ingersoll


iyak, cari yang murmer. bit ph sama pz pake wera, slotted pb swiss.
maklum kerehore.... :big_childish:

jis? ada link?
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josomba wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 8:20
Omnibus wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 8:05 bukan saya mbah .... suweerrrr :big_biglaugh:

itu om yg buatan jerman itu lho ...
Wkwkwkw iya mbah

Pas kapan hari ketemuan di garasi69, dia cerita langsung juga.

:big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:
wohoohoo kirain sy jd tersangka. selamet selamet ... :e-dance:
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marmut wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 9:06 dateng juga ahirnya....



IMG20220518155806.jpg



ki-ka :
tone 10-12mm, botol oli made in yapan 300ml, botol oli made yapan 180ml.
ga percaya kalo made in yapan? nyoohhh....



IMG_20220518_160421.jpg



berikutnya....



IMG20220518155857.jpg



perbandingan dengan ob14 nr.12 dan jtc 11-13mm



IMG20220518160040.jpg



mau buka plastiknya, sayang ah.... kapan2 aja kalo inget.

:mky_03:
salam saduluran :big_weee:

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kuning: ams 2.5w-25 :mky_03:

IMG_20220518_174105~2.jpg
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 10]

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marmut wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 9:06
mau buka plastiknya, sayang ah.... kapan2 aja kalo inget.

:mky_03:
sy punya beda tulisannya ... pdhl dulu di foto nya yg kaya ngana punya. :big_bored:

mau yg ituuuuuuuu :big_cry:
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josomba wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 6:03
marmut wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 4:45
Dat510 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 2:13

Iya mbah, kayanya tiap 80k perlu dibersihin si ICV ini..


balik lagi tergantung pake olmes apa?
tempo hari ada yang bingung gegara EGR gaada kotoran jelaga apalagi kerak karena rutin pake oli nganu.

:mky_03:
Si mbah satu itu memang kudu pensiun dr oli amerika biar keliatan ada kotornya dikit lah jeroan mesin...

:big_biglaugh:
makanya pakailah DGO donk, dah terbukti tuh di mobil kita orang, odo cepeceng tp daleman masi kinclong :big_weee: :big_weee: ... biar termangap2 tu sales oli timteng
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Omnibus wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 10:53
marmut wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 9:06
mau buka plastiknya, sayang ah.... kapan2 aja kalo inget.

:mky_03:
sy punya beda tulisannya ... pdhl dulu di foto nya yg kaya ngana punya. :big_bored:

mau yg ituuuuuuuu :big_cry:
Ishh mbah bentuknya engga banget :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh: :big_slap:

Bagusan punya mbah 69
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yanuarra wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 12:48
Omnibus wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 10:53
marmut wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 9:06
mau buka plastiknya, sayang ah.... kapan2 aja kalo inget.

:mky_03:
sy punya beda tulisannya ... pdhl dulu di foto nya yg kaya ngana punya. :big_bored:

mau yg ituuuuuuuu :big_cry:
Ishh mbah bentuknya engga banget :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh: :big_slap:

Bagusan punya mbah 69
iya :big_biglaugh: