SUBARU XV

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ngintip subaru global ada
http://www.subaru-global.com/13xv_rr_20dlp.html
XV 2.0DL

XV diesel 106ps 310nm spek sama , kayanya versi low outputnya

klw merk lain diesel serupa low output biasa nya CRD pressure di turunin biar lebih heavy duty dan bisa minum solar dgn kualitas lebih rendah... apalagi selisihnya jauh jg dri 150ps hehe:D


ummm..... mungkin g ntar ada XV diesel hehehe :D dulu alasan nya ogah riset lg bwat bikin diesel low fuel quality.... skrng uda ada yg low output ...

tentunya mainan piggy bisa di naikin lg hehe :D



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Re: SUBARU XV

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Ane punya pengalaman waktu hujan lebat kemarin, lalu masuk ke gedung parkir kuningan city. Waktu muter2 naek keatas jalan agak cepat lalu terasa spt slip keluar (understeer?), jadi sedikit ngepot. Ada yg tau kenapa? Serem juga sih, apakah VDC harus di off kan kalau hujan lebat? Ada yg pernah ngalamin juga?
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penyakit mobil AWD ya understeer kalo masuk tikungan dengan kecepatan terlalu tinggi

temen ane dulu pake Fozzy, masuk tikungan kelewat PeDe..kekencengan..malah understeer..di rem juga udah telat..nabrak pager akhirnya..untung gak rusak parah mobil ama pagernya..

VDC jangan di off kalo hujan lebat, ane nerjang genangan air di tol pas lari 100 lebih, bisa selamet dan mudah di kontrol gara2 VDC...tapi VDC Subby ini rada bandel..di Impreza ane mau dimatiin pun kalo dia detect ada slip..langsung nyala lagi otomatis..harus cabut sekring biar bener2 mati total..

dari ban juga pengaruh, kalo jenis bannya kurang mumpuni untuk lintasan basah, AWD juga gak nolong banyak..
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Loh baru tau juga AWD bisa understeer gw kira bakal lebih aman..keuntungannya jadinya apa nih om AWD klo gt? Grip jalan basah?

And subaru ini kan symetrical AWD, bedanya ama AWD umumnya apa ya?

Klo hujan dan licib jadi fungsi seperti tcs, vsc gt tetepp dibiarin nyala ya om ya?
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AWD kalo masuk tikungan terlalu kenceng understeernya lumayan..AWD kan permasalahannya di understeer

sebenernya kalo Symmetrical AWD itu...sumbu kiri kanan mobil itu simetris semua (jadi kalo di blueprint..seimbang/sama gitu jaraknya), dan dia aktif split torsi kesemua roda..gak nunggu ada ban slip.. (CMIIW)

kalo hujan itu jauh lebih aman nyalain VDC nya.. (VSC with TC)
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ini maksudnya oversteer kayanya ya
misal gini
belok ke.kiri dengan kecepatan tinggi, lalu pantatnya seperti ngebuang ke kanan?
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subaru xv emang wajar understeer , maklum ground clearance tinggi. Apalagi kalo di lantai semen atau beton yg basah, grip ban ke lantai pasti berkurang.
Tapi untuk ukuran suv, handling subaru xv sudah sangat baik.
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Wah koq bisa ya om sampai understeer gitu. Coba dicek tekanan ban depannya om kuay apakah sudah sesuai atau kurang? Kalau dari baca2 understeer di AWD lebih mudah dikoreksi dibanding oversteer, karena cukup lepas gas aja. Semoga VDC subby tambah pinter :)
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haristk7 wrote:AWD kalo masuk tikungan terlalu kenceng understeernya lumayan..AWD kan permasalahannya di understeer

sebenernya kalo Symmetrical AWD itu...sumbu kiri kanan mobil itu simetris semua (jadi kalo di blueprint..seimbang/sama gitu jaraknya), dan dia aktif split torsi kesemua roda..gak nunggu ada ban slip.. (CMIIW)

kalo hujan itu jauh lebih aman nyalain VDC nya.. (VSC with TC)
understeer sih masalah khas nya FWD............. aneh klw AWD understeer apalagi ada VDC/ESP............. :mky_05: :mky_05: awd seharusnya balance.

namun memang pabrikan untuk mbl biasa sering di bikin cendrung understeer dibanding oversteer, karna lebih safe.

mungkin karna yg CVT 60:40, which is bnyk kedepan jadi bawanya rada kaya FWD... klw yg MT baru 50:50


pengalaman speed oprut, klw pke partime pasti understeer parah.. pakai fulltime 50:50 open center diff kya subaru MT baru bisa handlingnya jadi tajam dan grip lebih balance.

nah kalau centerdiff nya tiba2 ngunci kya d partime mungkin karna ngedeteks slip y bisa understeer...
umm tp y masa g bisa bedain lg belok d permukaan licin dan tidak.

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understeer sih masalah khas nya FWD............. aneh klw AWD understeer apalagi ada VDC/ESP............. :mky_05: :mky_05: awd seharusnya balance.
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bayangane ane juga bakal begitu baru tau juga AWD bisa understeer, jadinya kelebihannya apa donk?hehe
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mau nanya nih (ane masih naksir) katanya alarmnya sensitif ya? apa bisa dikurangi? thx
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haristk7 wrote:penyakit mobil AWD ya understeer kalo masuk tikungan dengan kecepatan terlalu tinggi

temen ane dulu pake Fozzy, masuk tikungan kelewat PeDe..kekencengan..malah understeer..di rem juga udah telat..nabrak pager akhirnya..untung gak rusak parah mobil ama pagernya..

VDC jangan di off kalo hujan lebat, ane nerjang genangan air di tol pas lari 100 lebih, bisa selamet dan mudah di kontrol gara2 VDC...tapi VDC Subby ini rada bandel..di Impreza ane mau dimatiin pun kalo dia detect ada slip..langsung nyala lagi otomatis..harus cabut sekring biar bener2 mati total..

dari ban juga pengaruh, kalo jenis bannya kurang mumpuni untuk lintasan basah, AWD juga gak nolong banyak..
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firstmpv wrote:Wah koq bisa ya om sampai understeer gitu. Coba dicek tekanan ban depannya om kuay apakah sudah sesuai atau kurang? Kalau dari baca2 understeer di AWD lebih mudah dikoreksi dibanding oversteer, karena cukup lepas gas aja. Semoga VDC subby tambah pinter :)
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merkapa wrote:mau nanya nih (ane masih naksir) katanya alarmnya sensitif ya? apa bisa dikurangi? thx

uda ga terlalu sensi
yg sensi batch awal
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merkapa wrote:mau nanya nih (ane masih naksir) katanya alarmnya sensitif ya? apa bisa dikurangi? thx
bawa aja ke MI, nanti sama orang bagian alarm bisa disetting ulang. Biasanya kalo sensitif, ditendang bannya depan aja udah bunyi alarmnya
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AWD memang logikanya balance om billy, tapi tetep ada situasi dimana dia juga bisa understeer, apalagi kalo udah nikung di kecepatan tinggi..temen2 klub ane yang kebanyakan bawa WRX STi aja nemuin mobil Subby ini rada understeer dalam kondisi factory setting..mau itu transmisi matik dan manual..solusinya ganti sway bar belakang yang rada gedean/ceperin belakang/per belakang kerasin..Understeer Subby untuk pemakaian normal (dalam artian menikung dengan kecepatan normal) gak akan begitu kerasa..tapi kalo diajak belok dalam kecepatan cukup tinggi..kerasa itu understeer

intinya jangan ajak nikung Subby dengan kecepatan terlalu tinggi kalo belokannya cukup ekstrim..
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Beberapa hari ini lihat iklan XV di TV. Sayangnya cuma menonjolkan Boxer Engine-nya bukan AWD nya.
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coba boxer enginenya diupgrade utk facelift dikasi turbo, pasti tambah mantap deh penjualan XV..
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^^
lebih ngarep turbo boxerdiesel AT AWD......
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Subaru emang terkenal understeer, karena system awdnya lebih mekanis. Kalau misalnya Mitsubishi Evo X lebih netral krn ada intervensi traction control elektronik. Harganya juga bedalah, dan terus terang apakah system yg stirnya netral bisa lebih cepat? Masih ada banyak perdebatan. Kemudian, apakah system traction control yg rumit akan bisa sereliable system Subaru?

Kalau mau belok cepat pakai Subaru, enakan ngedrift sih.
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^^
subaru CVT yg sama-sama pakai haldex sih tidak lebih mekanis dari evo-X om. d kontrol elektronik juga.

klw yg MT sih iya viscouscoupling lsd center diff. meski masih kalah mekanis dri audi quattro Torsen centerdiff or even fortuner..........


dan subaru n evo-X ada traction control dan interverensi elektronisnya juga, malah subaru klw mw matiin harus nyabut sekring, tombol vdcnya g bener2 matiin.

drift biasanya oversteer, bukan understeer.

baca2an soal how to handle understeer on subaru
http://www.iwsti.com/forums/driving-tip ... steer.html


imho tetep aja, klw FWD biasa di push paling 40%nya dari awd uda understeer... awd bisa di push lebih jauh sebelum understeer.




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Wow, mobil ini mantap bodynya yah.....
Harga sekarang berapaan nih mobil?
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asudarsono wrote:http://motorimage.net/ID/buying/info/

Rp 365 juta. Murah bro
busyet dah, 365jt dibilang murah??
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outlander yg 335 kemurahan donk berarti om??
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info d tokobagus XV standar masih ada.. 345jt...




klw OSnya AWD sih murah.
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