Andai anda di manajemen FORD AsPac, what would u do

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Sekarang berharap jual Ranger apa ga susah ya?

Secara banyak perusahaan2 SDA banyak yang keok.

Kayak di kota ane, sering banget liat Double Cab dilelang. Kalo ga liat beberapa lapangan full penuh Double Cab sama Dump Truck.
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mylandy wrote:Om NR, saya penasaran kenapa gak ada insurance yang mau cover product liability ford di Indonesia? barangkali ada info lebih dalam... :thanks:
krn dg ecological commitment yg tinggi di dunia normal ... sulphuric fuel bikin human ez xpoz to cancer

tar akan byk yg tuntut ... ez case to win if prosecute in US forum / courts

kalo automaker(s) kalah kan insurance yg kluar wang bayar settlement (compensation) per judge ruling

sedangkan std engine / fuel spec di mana dimana kan sdh non sulphuric ... jadi insurance sdh tdk ada lg yg sanggup cover ... business / trading in indo

insurance bilang ... indo is a highrisk low market zone n better to walk away ...

supir sy beli bensin di bagram sj sdh euro5 ... di mogadishu juga sdh ...
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Dimengerti, Om NR, jadi ford (kurang) beruntung menjadi perusahaan AS yang UU-nya mengikat cara operasi bisnisnya di seluruh dunia.

Dulu ada oil & gas coy asal AS yang pull out gara-gara tidak mau bayar honor-honor aparat di indonesia, walaupun nantinya bisa cost recovery. Menurut prinsip mereka, aparat sudah digaji oleh negara/pemerintah sehingga company/masyarakat tidak perlu bayar lagi.
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mylandy wrote:Dimengerti, Om NR, jadi ford (kurang) beruntung menjadi perusahaan AS yang UU-nya mengikat cara operasi bisnisnya di seluruh dunia.

Dulu ada oil & gas coy asal AS yang pull out gara-gara tidak mau bayar honor-honor aparat di indonesia, walaupun nantinya bisa cost recovery. Menurut prinsip mereka, aparat sudah digaji oleh negara/pemerintah sehingga company/masyarakat tidak perlu bayar lagi.
Hess ya?

US company memang lbh terikat, karena aturan2 US cukup lengkap dan menjangkau seluruh dunia, atas nama transparansi...

beda sama japan company yang lbh fleksibel , dan governmenrtnya sendiri maklum

apalagi Korsel dan Cina, haha , kasar dan keras mainnya
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berarti kita punya bensin di Indo udah jaman batu nih ...

masa daerah konflik punya bensin lebih bagus mutunya daripada daerah damai ...
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Subsidi kan bkn cm untuk rakyat aja tp pejabat jg tp lain ya porsinya
Performa mesin berlipat ganda setiap 30 tahun
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US companies tdk akan brani kasih wang under table.kmn pun

bisa kena 15 USCode chapter 2b commerce and trade starting from art.78dd (foreign practices act 1977) kalo dia listed company bisa dpt xtra bonus 1934 securities exchange act

unlawful (by enterprise of individual of) corporate payment to any official of foreign entities ... kasian itu novanto ... baru tau blakangan ssdh omong ini itu ... yg dia bawa arab sih ... coba jewish ...

krn itu sisa pegunungan emas puncak jaya kasih sj ke prusahaan zhonghua ... sy jamin org superkaya indo nambah bbrp puluh
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suggest sy u yg di indo .. kalo wang tdk byk byk amat

jauh jauh dr US brands ... ford ... GM ... chrysler .... unlike japanese, they only interested in end result .... not process
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Fokus di fleet aja sy mah kalo jadi petinggi polt :)
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fleet purchase udah tuh 1,500 u "polisi" plus trahir 2014 ada 300 xtra

tapi intinya mrk tdk jualan local menu ... 7seater yg pernah ada pun dipaksa

seating row3 tatami ... duduk situ ssdh makan kenyang sy jamin muntah
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newrubble wrote:
hackers11 wrote:ada yang bisa review ga zaman dulu pas ford cabut gimana?
yang sekarang kok kayaknya kasar sekali prosesnya, ga kawatir nanti kalo ternyata jadi menarik lagi ya market indonesia?
dulu dia duluan kabur sblm GM 1998 alasan dia krn timorcar ...caranya no words just disappear

skrg dah lulus john robert pwr school
gile,jaman makin maju tapi tabiat ga berubah dong dulu dan sekarang ckckckc :big_dunno:
maap oot, apa sepanjang sejarah di Indo ada lagi pabrikan yg cabut dengan ga sopan gini om NR?
mazda/Alfa romeo ato ada yg lain mungkin(saya taunya 2 itu aja haha)
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GM indonesia th 1954 kabur ... headoffice dia jual as is n skrg jadi us embassy jakarta ... GM antjol factory dijual jadi (early) pt (persero) gaja motor ... trus dibeli alm.william jadi gaya motor n thn 85 dibeli indomobil jadi indo-swedish manufacturing company / ismac

GM-chevrolet yg dibuat idup lg di indo oleh cv astra international (1968) tibatiba thn 1969 kabur dr pt gaja motor qq astra international pindah ke garuda makmoer qq garuda diesel krn owner garmak/gardies dkt dg fir'aun jawa

1994 pt alun all of sudden esigned dr citroën sole agency .... fabriek jadi abu ... sold all parts inventory off to dutch foreign buyers n local salvage vendors

1998 GMBI pulled out from indo protesting timor car concession

2000 chrysler revoked ningz mobil sole agency n left indo

kalo alfaromeo soleagency ...pt carya satrya ltd (jakarta fair) tutup kena kebijakan penciutan merk mobil 1977-78 n dulu mrk CKD di ISC jalan lodan no.4 ancol
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newrubble wrote:GM indonesia th 1954 kabur ... headoffice dia jual as is n skrg jadi us embassy jakarta ... GM antjol factory dijual jadi (early) pt (persero) gaja motor ... trus dibeli alm.william jadi gaya motor n thn 85 dibeli indomobil jadi indo-swedish manufacturing company / ismac

GM-chevrolet yg dibuat idup lg di indo oleh cv astra international (1968) tibatiba thn 1969 kabur dr pt gaja motor qq astra international pindah ke garuda makmoer qq garuda diesel krn owner garmak/gardies dkt dg fir'aun jawa

1994 pt alun all of sudden esigned dr citroën sole agency .... fabriek jadi abu ... sold all parts inventory off to dutch foreign buyers n local salvage vendors

1998 GMBI pulled out from indo protesting timor car concession

2000 chrysler revoked ningz mobil sole agency n left indo

kalo alfaromeo soleagency ...pt carya satrya ltd (jakarta fair) tutup kena kebijakan penciutan merk mobil 1977-78 n dulu mrk CKD di ISC jalan lodan no.4 ancol
Kalau GM dulu ga kabur dari astra apa mungkin skrg dia bisa jd pemain besar ya di indo?
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spt sy bilang ... US automakers hanya tertarik end result ... bukan process

bikin mobil ya end up sales volume kalo perlu ... aftersales itu outsourcing

berharap chevy / GM big under astra spt berharap indo ma'mur in near future
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newrubble wrote:GM indonesia th 1954 kabur ... headoffice dia jual as is n skrg jadi us embassy jakarta ... GM antjol factory dijual jadi (early) pt (persero) gaja motor ... trus dibeli alm.william jadi gaya motor n thn 85 dibeli indomobil jadi indo-swedish manufacturing company / ismac

GM-chevrolet yg dibuat idup lg di indo oleh cv astra international (1968) tibatiba thn 1969 kabur dr pt gaja motor qq astra international pindah ke garuda makmoer qq garuda diesel krn owner garmak/gardies dkt dg fir'aun jawa

1994 pt alun all of sudden esigned dr citroën sole agency .... fabriek jadi abu ... sold all parts inventory off to dutch foreign buyers n local salvage vendors

1998 GMBI pulled out from indo protesting timor car concession

2000 chrysler revoked ningz mobil sole agency n left indo

kalo alfaromeo soleagency ...pt carya satrya ltd (jakarta fair) tutup kena kebijakan penciutan merk mobil 1977-78 n dulu mrk CKD di ISC jalan lodan no.4 ancol
datanya bener2 membuktikan kalo perusahaan amrik bener2 profit oriented :mky_05:
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klo dari pelajaran kuliah saya dulu, cara improvement orang amrik kan inovasi terus alias klo digambar tangga nya loncat tinggi abis itu datar, trus loncat tinggi lagi ...

klo jepang kan kaizen, naik pelan2, alias improvement dikit2 tapi naik terus ... jadi orang jepang sepertinya menghargai proses dan mau sabar untuk menjadi bagus, beda sama amrik langsung mau bagus ...