Norwegia bakal melarang penjualan mobil berBBM

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Norwegia bakal melarang penjualan mobil berBBM

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http://thenextweb.com/insider/2016/06/0 ... s-by-2025/

Langkah berani Norwegia. Meski baru wacana, perlu diapresiasi.
Di sini kapan ya? :off_bored:
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Wah Elon Musk lgs bakar kambing guling dah

You guys Rock......katanyah

Sy pribadi juga berharap akan banyak negara lain ikut jejak Norway

Cuman ntar lucu mobil2 jalan pake spiker semua, tiruan suara mesin bensin / suara tukang es sampe telolet
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Nasib kendaraan bbm yang masih aktif gimana ya....?
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maksutnya bukan petrol n diesel engined vehicles dilarang

tapi yg bole dijual nantinya hanya yg bisa 100% biofuel

negara sy tinggal malah sejak 2011 benar benar zero (read: zero) fossil fuel .... semua kalo tdk imported from brazil.(20%) pasti bikinan

grindavik (kota paling barat pas pinggir laut) 52 km (45menit drive ..... 11 jam relax cycling) dari reyljavik

disana ada carbon dioxide recycling center dimana doggie kattie feces berharga sama mahal dgn human feces di george olah stesyen

kita disini bilang carbon-neutral fuel meski bahan utama (selain feces dan buah / sayur busuk) dari carbonic acid seawater (100% salt free)

denmark baru thn 2050 .... sweden 2020 ....finland.2030 .... EU akan stop fossil fuel import 2055

tenang masih lama
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newrubble wrote:maksutnya bukan petrol n diesel engined vehicles dilarang

tapi yg bole dijual nantinya hanya yg bisa 100% biofuel

negara sy tinggal malah sejak 2011 benar benar zero (read: zero) fossil fuel .... semua kalo tdk imported from brazil.(20%) pasti bikinan

grindavik (kota paling barat pas pinggir laut) 52 km (45menit drive ..... 11 jam relax cycling) dari reyljavik

disana ada carbon dioxide recycling center dimana doggie kattie feces berharga sama mahal dgn human feces di george olah stesyen

kita disini bilang carbon-neutral fuel meski bahan utama (selain feces dan buah / sayur busuk) dari carbonic acid seawater (100% salt free)

denmark baru thn 2050 .... sweden 2020 ....finland.2030 .... EU akan stop fossil fuel import 2055

tenang masih lama
Woh, kirain sy taun segitu norway sdh harus bersih dr mobil dg internal combustion engine
Berarti skrg kendaraan disana banyak yg pake ethanol fuel ya?
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thn lalu di sini ada satu lawyer mau suicide dia lima jam di dalam mobil di garasi rumah dia dgn ac idup n mesin idup n exhaust end tersambung hose yg masuk ke kaca blakang audi dia

polisi yg datang krn tetangga curiga ada bunyi mesin mobil idup pas mau cari anjing yg lepas

.... datang n buka mobil dia n temukan dia dlm keadaan tidur .... tuh org skrg masih under psychiatric treatment krn multi depression (kes kalah terus .... istri minta cerai .... jumlah client turun)

tapi tuh orang masih idup berkat carbon neutral fuel
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nflfrs705 wrote: Woh, kirain sy taun segitu norway sdh harus bersih dr mobil dg internal combustion engine
Berarti skrg kendaraan disana banyak yg pake ethanol fuel ya?
skarang mrk sama spt finland denmark sweden brazil .... e85 ...b85 ...d85

85% bio component
15% fossil fuel

krn itu mobil motor moped (trmsk quadricycle) ada yg EU n ada yg scandi specs

di indo thn 1981 pernah ada sumbangan dari vw do brazil .. .. 1 unit 1980 vw passat b1 ethanol .... 2014 ahir sy masih liat bangkai nya di parkiran blakang gedung bppt

hrsnya brazil kasih itu ke indo thn 2081 ... lsg ke museum nasional merdeka barat ... ngapain ke bppt ... kurang kerjaan ikut campur urusan indo
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Kalo liat2 video di yutub, di Norway byk stasiun charging utk EV ya

Namanya SuperCharger, jadi pake EV di sana gak takut habis batere

Yutub : Bjorn Nyland

Bikin video perjalanan keliling Norway naik Tesla

Di Norway EV cars boleh lewat jalur busway
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by volume (EU)
EV highest population is in norway....most popular is nissan leaf

by percentage
EV use per capita is in iceland

sebenarnya di seluruh scandi (sy sdh keliling) EV charging mudah n murah (gratis) ampir tiap parking space ada electric inlet krn biasa juga u radiator warmup winter time

kalo ga nemu (mungkin ga pintar baca peta atau pemalas) mampir sj kantoor polisi .... bilang mau recharging ... pasti di bantu n gratis

sales tax gratis (kalopun bayar bisa minta full refund pas tax deckaration) roadtax zero .... insurance fully subsidized n ada juga subsidy on EV price

diperkirakan EV price dlm 30-40 thn lg akan lbh affordable 80-85% (entah price drop atau purchasing power sini tambah kuat) with / without multi subsidy
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Indonesia mau kapan nerapin sistem ini .. 2100?

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Masih luamaa...lha wong mesin hybrid aja malah digebuk pake pajak tinggi.
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melarang penjualan mobil berbbm.

masyarakat dibujuk pake bbm non subsidi aja belom pada mau...

(termasuk saya pake premios) :ngacir:
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tiga hr lalu sy trima mail dr indo energy state minister sy fikir dia mau minta advice

tau tau undangan kawin lg

lah bukannya udah ada satu n anak udah byk

pdhl dia sgt hafal joke sy .... org indo itu kalo ada wang dikit lbh ... pasti (mostly) ganti istri atau nambah
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newrubble wrote:tiga hr lalu sy trima mail dr indo energy state minister sy fikir dia mau minta advice

tau tau undangan kawin lg

lah bukannya udah ada satu n anak udah byk

pdhl dia sgt hafal joke sy .... org indo itu kalo ada wang dikit lbh ... pasti (mostly) ganti istri atau nambah
Pak sudirman said nikah lagi? Kok saya baru tahu ya, apa saya yg ketinggalan berita ini :big_slap:
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Kalo yang saya baca, masing-masing pernah nikah, ini yang kedua. Yang lagi trend, pejabat indonesia kawin sama artis, biarpun usianya beda jauh.
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Mantep

Begitu mudahnya menemukan charging station

Jadi pengen jalan2 ke Norway......xixixixiixxixi
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surprisingly di CungKuo juga charging station banyak sekali, membentang dari barat - Timur / Utara - Selatan

https://www.teslamotors.com/findus#/bou ... %20charger

Bahkan sampai ke Lhasa - Tibet !
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buat yg sering ke beijing (liat dr list) pasti tau jumlah sgitu dikit skali .... apalagi kalo mobil bukan tesla

bgt juga di hongkong .... cuma max 4 stalls per charging pt
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Di jkt, charging station bwt kendaraan satu pun udh ada blm ya? Dulu bknnya prnh ada iu bawa tesla ya ke indo (pre*tige), apa kabar tuh
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tesla in indo = richpersons' lifestyle

disini sejak 2015.11 mitsi outlander phev sampai 2016.03 ada special promo .... 6yr lease (no option to buy) is € 95 per month

tentu sj no downpayment .... cuma cukup catat social security number

all in .... driveaway .... insurance included (taxes fully subsidized)
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itu lawyer di tanah es selamet nyawanya gara2 biofuel ...

klo seluruh dunia udah pake biofuel semua mungkin udah ga bisa bunuh diri pake asep knalpot yah :D

abis ini bunuh dirinya kena setrum listrik waktu charging mobil ...
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Sampe sekarang saya gak ngerti alesan hybrid kena pajak macam2 itu apa ya ? Agak lucu sih pemerintah punya konsep lcgc dimana konsepnya mobil ramah lingkungan dan irit ujung2nya jadi mobil cc kecil dan trondol, gitu sih dari dulu daihatsu ceria juga masuk kriteria kali ya hahahha

Kalau biofuel itu kenapa disini gak jalan ya ? Bukannya harusnya biaya produksi bbm malah bisa sedikit turun ya karena ada unsur ethanolnya gak murni minyak bumi ?
Penasaran om sebenernya negara ini punya roadmap yg jelas gak sih tentang energi ?
Toh suatu saat cepat atau lambat sepertinya semua negara bergerak ke arah renewable energy.
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Mau gunakan BBM Fossil or Biofuel ya asap pembakaran ya sama2 menghasilkan polusi lah

Coba aja mobil E85 tanpa Katalik jalanin di garasi tertutup, orang bisa RIP juga

Kalo mobil Diesel krn emisi CO nya jauh lebih kecil, nggak mematikan spt mesin spark ignition

CO itu bahaya krn Hb lebih mudah mengikat CO drpd O2, sama halnya spt CN

Juga di negara2 Euro 5 kan level emisi CO harus kecil sekali, mobil bensin 3way katalis / Diesel dgn DPF dan NOX SCR

Btw BioDiesel kalo di Finland itu beda dgn Biodiesel di Indo, mrk BioDiesel gen 2 dgn sistem hydrogenation, jauhhhh lebih unggul drpd Biodiesel transester yg ada di Biosolar.

Btw si Tesla ini batere nya di supply oleh Panasonic juga ya

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newrubble wrote:
nflfrs705 wrote: Woh, kirain sy taun segitu norway sdh harus bersih dr mobil dg internal combustion engine
Berarti skrg kendaraan disana banyak yg pake ethanol fuel ya?
skarang mrk sama spt finland denmark sweden brazil .... e85 ...b85 ...d85

85% bio component
15% fossil fuel

krn itu mobil motor moped (trmsk quadricycle) ada yg EU n ada yg scandi specs

di indo thn 1981 pernah ada sumbangan dari vw do brazil .. .. 1 unit 1980 vw passat b1 ethanol .... 2014 ahir sy masih liat bangkai nya di parkiran blakang gedung bppt

hrsnya brazil kasih itu ke indo thn 2081 ... lsg ke museum nasional merdeka barat ... ngapain ke bppt ... kurang kerjaan ikut campur urusan indo
Biofuel itu produk produk Pembodohan juga , berapa banyak oksigen,air dan tanah yg dibutuhkan tanamanan untuk menghasilkan 1 liter bahan bakar biofuel dibandingkan dengan bahan bakar fosil murni . sama kaya gula diabetes tropicana slim di indonesia dibilang aman di penang malaysia dibilang SAMPAH nah loe :wkkk: :wkkk: :wkkk: sarapkan. jadi intinya biofuel adalah kerjaan org kurang kerjaan buat masarin produksinya alias trik Marketing . listrik nuklir murah .... bener kalau mampu bikin sendiri reaktornya kalau gak biayanya bisa 10x lipat lebih mahal belum lagi ketergantungan spare part dan jasa tenaga ahli . sama bkn rumah murah........... kalau bikin sendiri nah kalau diborongkan lain cerita pak harga langsung 3-4x lipat cheers :frm_tumbright:
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Pabrik batere nya Tesla kan belum operasional, masih kondisi dibangun. Rencananya klo ga salah Gigafactory buat support model 3 yang utama trus bikin batere Powerwall nya juga.


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